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PTC/USER Email Exploder Futures

DanGlenn
1-Newbie

PTC/USER Email Exploder Futures

I want to thank everyone for their feedback so far. I haven't been able to keep up with all the comments on the list and I've had a wide variety of input here at PTCLive. I have read a couple of misinterpretations of what we are planning so let me lay out here in writing exactly where we are with our Public Forum Strategy.


PTC/USER is in the initial stages of planning a unification of our Public Forums on to PTC Community at PTC.com.


Our initial plan is to:
- Migrate ALL the history and current discussions on ptcuser.org from our public discussions except ETC, Network, and USER Group. Those will remain active for the time being on ptcuser.org.
- Create PTC Community forums where there is no existing match to PTC/USER discussions.
What we are NOT doing:
- Removing any of the history from ptcuser.org.
- Migrating any of the Regional User Groups, Technical Committees, or related files.
- Enhancing or changing the way PTC Community works today.
One way or another, we are NOT going to end up with two forum sites.


What we aren't sure of yet:
- How to work the opt-in/out to PTC Community for our members.If or how we can merge accounts if members already have accounts on both sites.


Next Steps:
- Using this base information to establish a good understanding of our plan, I will continue to monitor these forums and other sources for issues, advantages, and feedback from you on your discussion forums.
- Construct a survey to put meaningful data behind the issues you see with this plan.
- Use the survey data to explore mitigations for high risk issues.


At that point we'll be in a position to make a migration plan and provide a timeline for action. We'll layout the +'s and -'s the move brings to our community and inform this community of our plan and timeline.
Keep the feedback coming. Know what's going on and also explore PTC Community functionality so we can discuss this from a standpoint of knowledge.


Understand this is not motivated out of "pressure" from PTC. It is purely a PTC/USER decision to respond to increasing input from members about having multiple forums in the same space and splitting the knowledge base and eroding both forums in the process. As PTC acquires new capability, there is increasing confusion among the groups as to where they should go for user information. I need to put real data behind the competing needs of our entire community.


In closing, I'd like to apologize for any confusion I caused by my announcement Monday morning at PTCLive. It was an oversight on my part not to have a prepared written post like this one so everyone can get the same information at the same time.


Thank you,
Solar Turbines Incorporated



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Apology accepted. Thanks Dan,



What you did not touch on is the biggest and loudest fear that we have, and
it should be #1 on your list; that is the VEHICLE that we are able to use to
send and receive the content to the forum. In Other Words, don't take away
our ability to use email as a method for communicating.



I fear that this was not mentioned because you don't have good news in this
department.



But hear this, please:



If the email system gets taken away, you will lose a substantial percentage
of your user-base. Maybe not pure numbers of users, but certainly years of
aggregate experience - or valuable participation - or some other metric of
quality...



You did it before for us around '07/'08 when the online forum was born - we
wanted email and you kept it. I know that it wasn't easy, but we
appreciated it and thank you for it. Please do it again.



-Nate





Nathan Rollins

BearsFeat, Inc.

505 Cross Street

Boylston MA 01505

978-979-9428

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It used to be there was ABSOLUTLY no confusion where USERS could go for unbiased information of PTC Products. Those days are D E A D! Could it be that PTC/USER is wanting to ditch another expense of keeping the exploder running. Don't know what the infrastructure is now; server, maintenance...

Tim P. Cooper
Lead Designer
GE Oil & Gas
North American ATO

T +1 281 878 6168
M +1 281 796 9038
F +1 281 715 4116
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www.ge.com

It's OK Dan. This was the intent PTC had all along in creating the PTC Community website; the eventual closure of PTCuser.


It hasn't anything to do with confusion among users, they can pretty much determine on their own which site offers the best support. It isn't because PTCuser participants have looked longingly at the gold stars you can earn at PTC Community for posting a lot. It certainly isn't about eroding forums, because PTCuser is not a forum - it's an e-mail exploder.


I like that you come out with "What we are NOT doing: Enhancing or changing the way PTC Community works today."


looks interesting.

you can start your own forum and only your trusted friends can see it. once
shared its basically copied from person to person so there is a cache and
unless everyone involved destroys that data, the forum cannot be killed by
PTC.

I propose that this is a better thing to do and that it would benefit us
all. could the current forum be migrated to p2p instead of giving it to PTC?

plz!?




On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Aome Dina <->
wrote:

> ah ha!
>
>
>> a PTC/USER decision to respond to increasing input from members about
>> having multiple forums in the same space and splitting the knowledge base
>> and eroding both forums in the process. As PTC acquires new capability,
>> there is increasing confusion among the groups as to where they should go
>>...















I second this one. I never use the internet login screen, only by email.
Google is better at everything and faster than your forum system so its
what I always used.


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Nathan Rollins <->
wrote:

> Apology accepted. Thanks Dan,
>
>
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> What you did not touch on is the biggest and loudest fear that we have,
> and it should be #1 on your list; that is the VEHICLE that we are able to
> use to send and receive the content to the forum. In Other Words, don't
> take away our ability to use email as a method for communicating.
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>
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> I fear that this was not mentioned because you don't have good news in
> this department.
>
>
>
> But hear this, please:
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> If the email system gets taken away, you will lose a substantial
> percentage of your user-base. Maybe not pure numbers of users, but
> certainly years of aggregate experience - or valuable participation - or
> some other metric of quality...
>
>
>
> You did it before for us around '07/'08 when the online forum was born -
> we wanted email and you kept it. I know that it wasn't easy, but we
> appreciated it and thank you for it. Please do it again.
>
>
>
> -Nate
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>
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> Nathan Rollins
>
> BearsFeat, Inc.
>
> 505 Cross Street
>
> Boylston MA 01505
>
> 978-979-9428
>
> -
>
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>
>
>
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> *From:* Dan Glenn [
> a PTC/USER decision to respond to increasing input from members about
> having multiple forums in the same space and splitting the knowledge base
> and eroding both forums in the process. As PTC acquires new capability,
> there is increasing confusion among the groups as to where they should go
> for ...














Oops guys,

I tried to go there and the site was blocked by ”Websense” my employers web filter because it is a P2P site.

FYI,
Kev

I figured as much. P2P represents too much freedom for some companies. We
actually have an internal facebook. It has the same effect as it will to
move our forum to PTC.org. No one uses it.

I'll have to talk to my buddy at websense to see if he can remove it from
the black list or something.


BenLoosli
23-Emerald II
(To:DanGlenn)

We have company Facebook and Twitter pages/accounts. And they are blocked from inside the company. I can only see them from home and by the time I get home I don’t want to see work.

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