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Reference/display dimensions from part in an assembly drawing

Tim1
1-Visitor

Reference/display dimensions from part in an assembly drawing

How do you display a dimension on an assembly drawing that references a dimension from a feature in a part of that assembly?

I've tried

&d###:file_name

&d###:file_name.prt

&d###:feature_number:file_name

I am trying to dimension a counter bore hole callout for a part in an inseparable assembly.


Thanks


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TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

I am not sure if WF4 has the same or similar interface to Creo that is why I didn't add it... but there is a button in Creo that lets you get to all the parameters of any feature, part, assembly, etc.

See if any of this looks familiar. You should have an Insert Parameter button somewhere... you should have the features shown in the model tree (for ease of use)... and you select the feature in the Parameter list and Insert Selected. Then you build the relation you want.

Snaggin_a_parameter_into_relations.png

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TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

Show Annotation and pick the part or feature in the model tree. Once you show it, you can get the code by with Switch Symbols.

Sublevel_dim.JPG

I guess the syntax is &dnnn:N where "N" is the assigned number to each part in the assembly, not specifically tied to the part itself. This makes sense when you have multiples of the same part, I guess.

Tim1
1-Visitor
(To:TomD.inPDX)

2-13-2013+2-44-54+PM.png


Tony, the above syntax you offered isn't working. See picture for clarity.

I'm trying to reference d259 in part 181750-01 in the tree.

I've tried

&d259:5

&d259:52

&d259:1

It just takes the & sign away from the note on some of the attempts.

We've been trying to figure this out for a while... Any help would be appreciated.

TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

When I created the note from the one dimension, I first selected it with Show Annotations by selecting the feature in the part through the model tree. After that, I used the annotation in the note just as I saw it on the screen.

Can you post the files in a zip, or something similar to test for you? Also, what version are you using?

Tim1
1-Visitor
(To:TomD.inPDX)

I am using Pro E Wildfire 4

I attached a sample of what I'm trying to do. Basically I want to be able to link the counterbore diameter and depth in the hole diameter dimension for one part in an assembly of multiple parts.

It sounds like it should be very simple...

Thanks for all your help,


Tim2-14-2013+8-22-47+AM.png

TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

This is indeed interesting behavior. I will have to look into this further (that's code to ask tech support).

You can get what you want fairly easily but it seems to be either a bug or a limitation. I need to test it with some current parts and different config.pro settings to see if I simply inherited it in my session or if this is common behavior.

This is what I saw:

  • If you overwrite a drafting dimension (driven) with @O and add any &d{whatever:N}, it removes all the &.
  • If you create a drafting note and add the &d{whatever:N}, it behaves as expected; it displayed the dimension value and pre/suffixes.
  • If you "show" the original sub-part hole diameter, you can add all the &d{whatever:N} you want and they show as expected.

Since I am on Creo 2.0, you probably can't open my files. Let me know if this echoes the behavior you see in WF4

  • Oh, and you cannot add &d{whatever:N} to a driven dimension.
TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

In order to use exactly what you have, you need ot build assembly relations:

dimension_behavior.JPG

The relations were created directly from the drawing.

Do you know how to find feature parameters and add them in relations?

Tim1
1-Visitor
(To:Tim1)

Everything you wrote echos what I'm seeing.

Showing a dimsion, your 3rd bullet, does work correctly and that will work for us. The only problem with that is you cannot place GD&T on that dimension using datums from the Assembly. Which is probably better practice to place th datums in the part, rather than the assembly anyway.

It would be nice to know how to add these dimensions in a drafting dimension still.

Thanks,

Tim1
1-Visitor
(To:Tim1)

The relations worked also. Do you have a reference website or document explaining the syntax of the relations? I'm unclear why

VALUE1=CBORE_DIAMETER:FID_74:0

VALUE2=CBORE_DEPTH:FID_74:0

was typed the way it was.


Thanks

TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

I am not sure if WF4 has the same or similar interface to Creo that is why I didn't add it... but there is a button in Creo that lets you get to all the parameters of any feature, part, assembly, etc.

See if any of this looks familiar. You should have an Insert Parameter button somewhere... you should have the features shown in the model tree (for ease of use)... and you select the feature in the Parameter list and Insert Selected. Then you build the relation you want.

Snaggin_a_parameter_into_relations.png

Tim1
1-Visitor
(To:TomD.inPDX)

Yes, this all works...

Thank you very much

TomD.inPDX
17-Peridot
(To:Tim1)

My pleasure! ...and have a great day

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