The most interresting view is to look at the new CAD products, for example : Adobe Acrobat 3D is fully compatible with a lot of 3D products, but ... pro-eng again and again with a lot of bugs. That sure developping easy to use programs is not given to everyone. And when I saw Pro-E is made for Small factories, let me laught... I'm waiting 4 month to have just a renew of my licenses, but in Europe they sleep at PTC office all the day !!!! Is there someone in PTC, who do client request in less than many monthes ? Still waiting some professionnal... but is there some ??? Thanks Senior System Engineer