This may sound like a small thing to get ****** off about, but it made my time to complete my end of project tasks/work twice as long! And its not like it was not good before... Time is money and I don’t like spending it on what should be old rope.
This is most certainly not a small thing! I think it's the most important. Time IS money......and that's wasting money.
I sympathize with you......hopefully it will get a little better once the learning curve is behind you!
Probably been using it 7 months or more now. Hate it more the more I use it. I can;t see it being better in any way, and, in fact, drawings take easily 2 to 4 times longer than in WF4.
Im starting to get annoyed with these WF4/5 > Creo posts. Drawings from my personal experience are not slower. Last week i had to finish around 38 assembly/part drawings in one day with a person who recently switched from WF5.If i was to see that Creo is worse then WF i should have seen it on that day. All the people i know that swithced from WF to Creo had no complaints.
Jeremy Oates wrote:
- Open system window > purge (working directory): Its very helpful to purge your working directories when you got big asms and many components. Stops your drive filling up quick. Only accessible through Creo 2.0 when NO files are open.
You have to do some settings for Purge to work but it is working as expected now, AFAIK. Your windows path statement requires the path to the PTC...BIN folder.
When you said it now takes 4 clicks to move a dimension to a non-default position, what do you mean by that? Just curious because I didn't understand what you were referring to by that statement.
Personal experience varies as does the expertise of the user operating Wildfire or Creo. Some people like the new interface and take to it quite well. The people who are annoyed with it are those who were really adept at using Wildfire. It takes time and effort to become truly proficient in a CAD system. Expert users have put in years of time to gain that level of proficiency. Tossing it out the window in favor of a new interface can annoy some people.
There's absolutely no way in the world you can take a user with years of Wildfire experience (we're talking WF4), move him to Creo, and have him be just as effective. When you say the user "recently switched", how long ago was this? Also... the user in question went from Wildfire 5 to Creo. It's well documented that Wildfire 5's drawing package is basically the exact same as the one in Creo 1.0. So that's not really much of a leap to make. If the guy was fast on WF5, it's doubtful the short hop to Creo would cause him much grief.
However, for someone coming from Wildfire 3 or 4... the leap to Creo is a massive change requiring substaintial effort before the user regains a base level of productivity. Some people get frustrated during that transition time and they've vented their feelings here. I don't see why you'd be annoyed at someone else's frustration over this.
If your favorite TV show features an actress you love... and suddenly mid-season they kill off her character and bring in a new person, you might be frustrated. Some people may love the new person more... others will bristle at the change. You can't be annoyed that someone ELSE is upset over the change.
Of course you can certainly be annoyed if you feel Creo is being attacked unfairly. I think this is where you're coming from.
I love the new interface,about time they made it user friendly!
Now you don't have to be focused so much on using software, more on designing,
and i believe it's great that they are heading a direction where you can combine different modeling techniques, direct - parametric - 2D.
As long as they don't get rid of the automation possibilities I'll stick to PTC.
And I believe it's an easy transition from WF3 to creo, it's all the same buttons, just on a clearer location. + you can search the functions, love it.
Creo, not for the PHDers anymore, but for the PROducers.
How, exactly, is the ribbon "user friendly"? I find when I'm working that the RMB doesn't do anything anymore, and I have to constantly keep going back to the ribbon, and try and remember what tab does what. Do people today really need to be spoon-fed everything to get anything done? As mentioned by Brian and many others, the best, fastest, most productive, most experienced users almost universally hate the interface, the detail mode being the most offensive. So, how is it helping us that the best users are slowed down with needless feel-good graphics so the rookie users feel happy about themselves and the software?
38 dwgs in a day, really? What, you changed a symbol in each one? Try creating a dwg from start to finish.
Not sure what youre talking about Frank - theres still 3 DIFFERENT interfaces to deal with in CREO2 - MenuManager is still there, try Notes and Dimensions.
This is NOT efficient and NOT spoon feeding - OK if you know all of them but that would mean having learnt ProE earlier than Wildfire. Arent most of those users RETIRED now?
This is still the elephant in the room for PTC - reviewers of CREO have picked up on this.
Anyone who likes the Wildfire UI should stick to WF4. PTC need to get on and convert CREO fully, its taken way too long already.
Burt Land wrote:
...OK if you know all of them but that would mean having learnt ProE earlier than Wildfire. Arent most of those users RETIRED now?