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10-Marble
September 21, 2021
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Fixtures disappear after being applied to manufacturing assembly

  • September 21, 2021
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I am using Creo Parametric - Release 3.0 (connected) 3.0 M190

Fixture disappears after being applied to manufacturing assembly model.

Here are the errors that I faced
No errors or messages. Fixture simply does not show in the assembly after placing. This apparently has been an issue since prior to Creo 1.0. What is the cause of this and how can I work around it?
    Best answer by KenFarley

    When I've wanted to have fixtures in my manufacturing assembly, to avoid cutting them, put holding bolts in, use them as datums, etc. I assemble them in as reference model(s). That way if I'm being dopey and cut them I'll (hopefully) see it when I simulate the material removal.

    You can have as many reference models and workpieces as you wish. Often, for fixture machining, I'll bring in all the parts and have toolpaths for them all in one file.

    3 replies

    24-Ruby III
    September 21, 2021

    Have you already reported this issue to PTC's technical support?

    cmerani10-MarbleAuthor
    10-Marble
    September 21, 2021

    Yes I have.  The response was to post here.  I have never had much success requesting support from PTC however.  The last time it took 3.5 years to get a solution.

    23-Emerald III
    September 21, 2021

    Creo 3 M190 was released in January 2019 as the last release of Creo 3. It is now 5 versions out-of-date. I would not expect any support from PTC on any Creo 3 issues.

     

    cmerani10-MarbleAuthor
    10-Marble
    September 21, 2021

    They didn't respond to me when 3.0 was on its first release.  I also have zero interest in a subscription based software model so I will be staying on 3.0 until my license server dies.  This issue has been present (from a bit of google research) for quite a while and was still an issue in 5.0.  To be honest, I don't expect any help from PTC.  Just trying to see if any other users have found a work around.

    KenFarley21-Topaz IIAnswer
    21-Topaz II
    September 21, 2021

    When I've wanted to have fixtures in my manufacturing assembly, to avoid cutting them, put holding bolts in, use them as datums, etc. I assemble them in as reference model(s). That way if I'm being dopey and cut them I'll (hopefully) see it when I simulate the material removal.

    You can have as many reference models and workpieces as you wish. Often, for fixture machining, I'll bring in all the parts and have toolpaths for them all in one file.

    cmerani10-MarbleAuthor
    10-Marble
    September 21, 2021

    Thanks for the info Ken.  This could potentially solve my dilemma.  I will accept as a solution as soon as I get a chance to test it.

    cmerani10-MarbleAuthor
    10-Marble
    September 23, 2021

    OK Ken, I gave this a try and it definitely works!  I am accepting your response as the solution.  Follow up question though, if you have multiple processes, how do you handle fixturing?  Example, I need to perform some milling on a blank, then transfer to the wire EDM to perform finishing ops.  The fixture/vise will be different for the operations yet I need the workpiece in the EDM operations to reflect its condition after the milling operations.  Is this possible?  Any recommendations?  I have been using Creo since ProE2001 but I am very new to the Manufacturing module.  Thanks in advance!