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16-Pearl

## Weibull fitting problem

Can anybody point me to my error. I can't get a decent fit for my data; see attached MC15 file.

Raiko

P.S. For some reason the website does not accept the MC15 file claiming that "...the contents of the attachement doesn't match its file type." henec, I've added a pdf.

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24-Ruby V
(To:Fred_Kohlhepp)

I am not sure about the Gaussian.

Here is a direct comparison side by side (worksheet attached):

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23-Emerald III
(To:Raiko)
Attachments is a known problem that is being worked on. You can attach if you first put the worksheet in an archive (.zip).
Luc
16-Pearl
(To:LucMeekes)

OK Luc, here we go

Raiko

21-Topaz II
(To:Raiko)

Hi,

The data aren't distributed according to the Weibull distribution that you have traced in your graph (for s<=1). So you will never be able to adapt them to Weibull's distribution. The sample is small. How do you say it is distributed according to Weibull? With a larger sample it may turn out to be Gaussian.

24-Ruby V
(To:Raiko)

Maybe a scaling problem

12-Amethyst
(To:Raiko)

Here's a PDF of what Maple gives you

24-Ruby V
(To:mvenich)

Mathcads weibull unfortunately is standardized to scale parameter (in German: charakteristische Lebensdauer) T=1.

To fit we need a function with two parameters, scale T and shape b.

Guess thats the way to achieve that in Mathcad:

23-Emerald I
(To:Raiko)

F M is (I believe) correct, This should be a normal fit; if you're measuring hardness that's what I'd expect.  You can get a normal fit as shown--the same basic method as Werner did for the Weibull.

24-Ruby V
(To:Fred_Kohlhepp)

I am not sure about the Gaussian.

Here is a direct comparison side by side (worksheet attached):

16-Pearl
(To:Werner_E)

Hello Werner,

sorry for the late reply but I wasn't in office for a few days. Thanks a lot to all of you guys for your effort and thank you Werner for the solution.

Raiko

23-Emerald III
(To:Raiko)

Your data is skewed, hence a Weibull distribution is more plausible than a normal distribution.

Success!
Luc

23-Emerald I
(To:LucMeekes)

Not sure that I agree.

Using the probability plotting of the Data Analysis Extension for both Normal and Weibull:

comparison of distribution fits

19-Tanzanite
(To:Fred_Kohlhepp)

There is no realistic way to know what the distribution should be, and 25 data points is surely not going to allow you to determine it statistically (although I have not done any statistical calculations to prove that ). Maybe there is some systematic error that skews the hardness measurements, maybe not. If not, it's probably Gaussian. If there is such an error, it probably does not follow any statistical distribution. So what distribution to use in the fit likely depends on the end goal more than anything else.

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