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vector image insertion and manipulation

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

William Pong wrote:

Thanks for this, Mike --

Learning always -- (just did some experimenting upon reading your comment) Embedded objects may be more useful than I first thought.

Question1: Does creating a new embedded excel object create any external references? (ie, does this generate any other files / entities that need to be managed? It looks like the answer is 'no' -- which is good! Such self-containment is crucial for me (so I can create a mathcad worksheet and know that everything is right there, no separate files to keep track of).

If this self-containment is consistent for other embedded object-types, it opens possibilities. Which leads to question #2:

Question2: I note that when I "insert > object," there is a list of applications that comes up. Do you know how to add to that list new applications / object-types? My thought: If I can find a small vector-graphics software, I could install that software, and enable embedding objects from that software (if excel is unavailable).

--Will

Will,

Question 1 - There are no external references created with a embedded excel object within Mathcad. The beauty of the function is the ability to create result tables which clients can understand and are easy on the eye. In my opinion PTC has failed with this aspect so far, but looking at the new release of Prime have made a step forward at least.

Question 2 - My gut feeling is no. I'm not a 100% sure though so maybe someone from PTC can enlighten us.

Mike

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

William Pong wrote:

Question2: I note that when I "insert > object," there is a list of applications that comes up. Do you know how to add to that list new applications / object-types? My thought: If I can find a small vector-graphics software, I could install that software, and enable embedding objects from that software (if excel is unavailable).

--Will

If the application supports OLE then when it is installed it will create the correct registry entries, and you will see it in the list of available applications. If it is not in the list then you can't add it manually.

If you move the Mathcad sheet to another computer without the application you may or may not be able to see the graphic (it seems to depend on the application). You will not be bale to edit it even if you can see it.

I've attached a file with a CorelDraw graphic embedded, so you can check if you can see it. You can get a copy of CorelDraw on Amazon for under $100.

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

Thanks for this Mike -- I'm running 2001i Professional -- I believe this is causing a glitch -- can't open, and in fact, the file crashes my mathcad session. Any chance you can save in 2001i or earlier format?

Also, thanks for the information re. OLE. Mentally noted, and will be a factor as I look for best path forward.

--Will

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

Here it is in 2001i format.

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

Will,

There is no problem in what I understand you are asking for. You can go quite a distance making sketches in Excel, paste in Mathcad as default Metafile and then you can stretch as you wish. The Microsoft Excel Metafile is a kind of vector drawing. What's missing in the this proposal and way of doing is the aspect ratio data. The aspect ratio is a tool in ORIGINLAB and that enables to scale the pasted metafile object in ORIGINLAB. The same feature is missing in Mathcad. What about Microsift Vision if you don't want to spent too maby $ for little sketches. Another way high pro of doing is using "Intellicad". Intellicad used to be freeware, totally compatible with AutoCad. Mathcad 11 and 2001i was compatible with Mathcad .

jmG

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

>Mathcad is too valuable and useful to stop using because it can't draw, but PTC should have implemented a drawing tool in M15, if not M15, then defiantly Mathcad Prime 1.0.< [Mike]

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The point you are missing Mike, is that the smallest minimal vector graphic package would already be a very huge component of Mathcad. Probably resulting in reducing Mathcad speed and otherwise efficiency. Up to few years ago, there was no "little graphic " on the market, only pro packages. A graphic package is a data base system + the Bézier maths ++++. A gear box is not a gear box if it does not have gears inside and working .

Jean

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

jean Giraud wrote:

The point you are missing Mike, is that the smallest minimal vector graphic package would already be a very huge component of Mathcad. Probably resulting in reducing Mathcad speed and otherwise efficiency. Up to few years ago, there was no "little graphic " on the market, only pro packages. A graphic package is a data base system + the Bézier maths ++++. A gear box is not a gear box if it does not have gears inside and working .

Jean

Jean,

Fair point if a vector package inside Mathcad would reduce speed or efficiency. Even a drawing tools similar to Excel would be sufficient as starters. Maybe even try and scale the drawing from calculated values within the worksheet. If a drawing is produced, say to display the required trench width for a pipeline, the calculated value could be used to automatically draw the trench.

This would save a lot of time editing in Excel or whichever software which was used.

Mike

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

The point you are missing Mike, is that the smallest minimal vector graphic package would already be a very huge component of Mathcad. Probably resulting in reducing Mathcad speed and otherwise efficiency.

Rubbish.

Some basic drawing tools would require a minimal amount of extra disk space for the required DLL(s), and would have a negligible effect on the performance of Mathcad.

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

>Some basic drawing tools would require a minimal amount of extra disk space for the required DLL(s), and would have a neglible effect on the performance of Mathcad.< [Richard]

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Not completely wrong: my version of Intellicad is 20MB only.

Why has it been refused for years ?

The spell check does not have "negligible" !!!

Re: vector image insertion and manipulation

Not completely wrong: my version of Intellicad is 20MB only.

Why has it been refused for years ?

Intellicad is much more than just a few drawing tools though.

I'm not sure what you mean by "refused". Refused by who or what?

The spell check does not have "negligible" !!!

Oops! Thanks for the typo catch. Guess I should use the spell checker more often!

It does actually have negligible, but if you type "neglible" it can't find the correct word. Neither can the Word 2000 spell checker though, so I'm not going to make an issue of it.

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