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JWayman
12-Amethyst

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Good morning,
I recently proposed an idea for a new feature on the Planet PTC website.

The text of the idea was as follows:

>>>When I am working on a modification to an existing model, whether it be
one of mine or someone else's, I frequently want to figure out how a
particular feature was created, what its references are, how it was
dimensioned, etc.

Let's use a Datum Plane as an example:

I want to move a feature, called 'Essential_Bump_On_The_Side', from its
current position to a different position, further along the side. I also
know that 'Essential_Bump_On_The_Side' is referenced to a datum plane I have
called  'Bump_Location_plane' in the model tree. Thing is, I can't remember
whether 'Bump_Location_Plane' is referenced from the standard datum plane
'Front' or from my other datum plane 'Offset_From_Front'. So, I RMB, Edit
Definition and I can see it is referenced to 'Offset_From_Front'. However,
whether I decide to Green Tick out of it or Red Cross out of it, after the
apparently endless series of 'Do you Really Want to Cancel?' messages, the
whole sorry rat's nest of a model regenerates (remember, it's one of
mine...). In some cases, that can take minutes.

Now comes the idea:

How about if we had a third option alongside the Green Tick and Red Cross,
one that is greyed out the instant any value is changed, but is available as
long as we are just looking. This third option could be called 'Revert' or
something of the sort, and would simply put everything back as if I had
never pressed Edit Definition.

I realise that I can control the regeneration behaviour with Config Options,
but this idea would give a greater level of precision to the control, and
would save lots of my time.<<<

Now, I have received a number of replies to the effect that this feature is
not required, because I can already do this kind of investigation using the
Global Reference Viewer (GRV).

That may be the case, but: How?

I can find nothing useful in help or on the forums describing the way to use
the GRV. Is there a tutorial or something similar that I can plough through
to find out how to investigate the scenario above?

I tried an alternative scenario this morning:

I had a sub-assembly assembled into an assembly twice. In the first case, it
was assembled using a default constraint. In the second, it was aligned and
mated three times.

Could I have used the GRV to discover the nature of these constraints? I
couldn't see how when I looked, but maybe I just need pointing in the right
direction and it is really the answer to all my questions.



I'm quite excited to find out how to use this tool. I look forward to
receiving your advice.



Cheers,



John

John Wayman, C.Eng, FIED
Senior Mechanical Engineer


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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:06:20 +0100, Wayman John wrote:
> Good morning,
> I recently proposed an idea for a new feature on the Planet PTC
> website.
>
> The text of the idea was as follows:
>
> _>>>When I am working on a modification to an existing model, whether
> it be one of mine or someone else's, I frequently want to figure out
> how a particular feature was created, what its references are, how it
> was dimensioned, etc._
>
> _Let's use a Datum Plane as an example:_
>
> _I want to move a feature, called 'Essential_Bump_On_The_Side', from
> its current position to a different position, further along the side.
> I also know that 'Essential_Bump_On_The_Side' is referenced to a
> datum
> plane I have called 'Bump_Location_plane' in the model tree. Thing
> is,
> I can't remember whether 'Bump_Location_Plane' is referenced from the
> standard datum plane 'Front' or from my other datum plane
> 'Offset_From_Front'. So, I RMB, Edit Definition and I can see it is
> referenced to 'Offset_From_Front'. However, whether I decide to Green
> Tick out of it or Red Cross out of it, after the apparently endless
> series of 'Do you Really Want to Cancel?' messages, the whole sorry
> rat's nest of a model regenerates (remember, it's one of mine...). In
> some cases, that can take minutes._
>
> _Now comes the idea:_
>
> _How about if we had a third option alongside the Green Tick and Red
> Cross, one that is greyed out the instant any value is changed, but
> is
> available as long as we are just looking. This third option could be
> called 'Revert' or something of the sort, and would simply put
> everything back as if I had never pressed Edit Definition._
>
> _I realise that I can control the regeneration behaviour with Config
> Options, but this idea would give a greater level of precision to the
> control, and would save lots of my time.
>

If PTC can build such a button, I'm sure they could also make the
software such that if you press the red cross the model would behave as
you described when nothing is altered, and it would regenerate in case
something was already modified. A third button would only be a needless
extra confusion to the user, in my opinion.

But I am glad that people are still coming up with good ideas and tell
PTC about them. It may keep them aware that improvements are still very
much possible.

Best regards,
Patrick Asselman
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