Model of a US quarter?

[Chris3]

Does anyone have a model of a US quarter? I would like something a
little more detailed than just the thickness and diameter. I want it to
show the scale of some things when I make print outs.

Chris

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[BenLoosli]

I believe the US Secret Service would not look favorably on someone modeling a quarter, or any coin.
They would consider that a form of counterfittng.


Thank you,

Ben H. Loosli

[TimothyField]

Couldn't you apply a decal to a cylinder that matches the diameter and thickness of a quarter?

Timothy

[Chris3]

Actually the Secret Service is fine with it:

[mdebower]

I think I would model it as a flat washer without the hole and map an image on one side...

[Chris3]

A lot of people have suggested just applying a decal to the model. I can
do that. Thanks for the help.

Chris

[brianlynn]

So according to what you posted this would not be a good way to show scale
of a part as I believe the original poster had intended, because the first
stipulation is...

1. The illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one
and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated

And re-use would be difficult because of the item 3 listed.

3. All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic
files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used
in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the
illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased
after their final use

Brian S. Lynn
Technical Coordinator, Product Engineering

[joepaul88]

Uh, not really, It's first requirement is that it be out of scale, so it
would not help you to have it as it is not the correct scale anyway.



The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section
411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color
illustrations of U.S. currency, provided:

1. The illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than
one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item
illustrated

2. The illustration is one-sided and

3. All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium,
graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other
thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of
the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or
erased after their final use

Title 18, United States Code, Section 504 permits black and white
reproductions of currency and other obligations, provided such
reproductions meet the size requirement. See the section on this website
entitled Know Your Money
<">http://www.secretservice.gov/know_your_money.shtml> for more
information.

[Chris3]

The requirement is that the illustration is not to scale. My poster will
not be to scale - if it was, I wouldn't need the quarter in the first
place.

Chris

[wrsamuels]

That print could definitely be used for scale.
The delta between it and an actual item can easily be seen understood. It has real ramifications for being wrong and shows the importance of scale.

I would suggest not using it as an honest error may have new people introducing themselves to you followed by them showing you their badges.

Feel free to contact me with any questions

[brianlynn]

Why not, just create a disk the size of a quarter and then put text on it US Quarter Equiv.? Simple, straight to the point, and avoids any potential for problems with the government.

Brian S. Lynn
Technical Coordinator, Product Engineering

[TimMcLellan]

While I had mentioned to Chris and sent an example of a quarter with an
image mapped to the surface (not to scale). Another option is to leverage
another type of object that people can easily relate scale to. See the
attached examples with a pencil. I have also use other items such as a
coffee cup.



Hope that helps,



Tim McLellan
Mobius Innovation and Development, Inc.

[Jim.Tierney]

You could model a ruler.. the government doesn't care if you show an
inch 🙂 With patterns, it would go pretty quick.



Just a thought.



You can get a free one here:

[lylebeidler]

From a different page on the Secret Service site:



"Coins

Photographs, printed illustrations, motion picture film or slides of United
States and foreign coins may be used for any purpose.

With few exceptions, existing law generally prohibits the manufacture, sale
or use of any token, disk or device in the likeness or similitude of any
coins of the United States, or of any foreign country, which are issued as
money." (emphasis added)



Note the distinction: paper money - lots of restrictions on printed
illustrations & photographs. Coins - none. Why? 'Cause you can't try to
pass of a photocopy of a coin as the real thing. So as long as you don't
use your 3d model of that quarter to print one out on a 3d printer, you're
fine.



That page is here:

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<">http://www.mgsincorporated.com>

[ptc-141274]

But should it be a metric ruler?



Couldn't resist. J



Doug

[mjenkins]

How about a push pin or paper clip? They might be less likely to bring about any black helicopters flying about overhead:)

http://www.solidshack.com/category/3d-models/work-office-home/page/3/

In Reply to Chris Rees:

Does anyone have a model of a US quarter? I would like something a
little more detailed than just the thickness and diameter. I want it to
show the scale of some things when I make print outs.

Chris

Michael R. Jenkins P.E.
Design Engineer
Direct: 816-801-2332
Fax: 816-891-9432

Commercial Vehicle Systems
Haldex Brake Products Corporation
10930 North Pomona Avenue
Kansas City, MO 64153-1215

[mjenkins]

Here are some good ones you might be able to import by WRL?

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/preview.aspx?modelcode=4165

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/preview.aspx?modelcode=4567

And here is a guy who listshints for applying the decal:

http://www.mcadcentral.com/proe/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35725

In Reply to Michael Jenkins:

How about a push pin or paper clip? They might be less likely to bring about any black helicopters flying about overhead:)

http://www.solidshack.com/category/3d-models/work-office-home/page/3/

In Reply to Chris Rees:

Does anyone have a model of a US quarter? I would like something a
little more detailed than just the thickness and diameter. I want it to
show the scale of some things when I make print outs.

Chris

Michael R. Jenkins P.E.
Design Engineer
Direct: 816-801-2332
Fax: 816-891-9432

Commercial Vehicle Systems
Haldex Brake Products Corporation
10930 North Pomona Avenue
Kansas City, MO 64153-1215


Michael R. Jenkins P.E.
Design Engineer
Direct: 816-801-2332
Fax: 816-891-9432

Commercial Vehicle Systems
Haldex Brake Products Corporation
10930 North Pomona Avenue
Kansas City, MO 64153-1215

[ptc-157102]

Why not use a foreign coin?

[rrich]

How about a rubber chicken? Didn't we beat this horse a few weeks ago?

Ron

[ptc-593619]

I think by using a US coin, he is trying to show size by something that
is familiar. Using a coin from Abkhazia or Atlixtac to Zamunda or
Zimbabwe would not assist the viewer of the drawing as they would have
no idea what size the foreign coin is portraying.

The Australian 50 cent piece is reputed to be one of the largest whereas
the Manak from Nepal is the smallest.

Still beating a dead horse with this thread!