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Stress in joint through prestressed bolt

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Stress in joint through prestressed bolt

Hi,

I am using Creo 2.0, and I am interested in finding out more about the stress in a joint due to a prestressed bolt. I am using a dummy-model, consisting of two identical plates(aluminum) with 18mm holes in the middle. I am using the fastener feature and prestress my M16 bolt(steel) with 59.8kN. I use fixed separation=on and default bonded interface(no contact interfaces defined whatsoever). After the first run, Fastener1_axial_force=24kN, as I understand for the second run I must prestress 59.8*59.8/24=149kN, is this correct?

Furthermore, the stress in the joint is high, there are considerable regions where it is above 200MPa. As most aluminums have an Rp0.2 lower than this, this is a problem.

So the question is: Am I missing something? Is the Creo fastener tool a good tool to see the stresses induced in the joint?

Best

Andreas


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Is the Creo fastener tool a good tool to see the stresses induced in the joint?

Generally speaking, it's not, but it really depends on the specifics of the system you're using it within. The fastener tool creates an idealization of a fastener by using several springs and linking elements, and is primarily used to give a more realistic representation of the load transfer through a structure as opposed to a bonded interface or rigid linking surfaces together. In certain situations the fastener tool can give a reasonable level of accuracy in the stresses in the neighboring material, but this assumes that you've set the fastener up correctly. The preload, fix separation, and frictionless interface can have a very large impact on the results given, so you need to be very careful and ensure that including these effects are appropriate for the nature of the joint.

All that being said, if you're really concerned with the stresses in the fastener and the neighboring material, then doing a 3D solid representation of the fastener (minus the threads in most cases) with contact interfaces is probably the best bet. However, as I said before, you might be able to use the fastening tool if the situation is appropriate for it and if you set it up correctly.

After the first run, Fastener1_axial_force=24kN, as I understand for the second run I must prestress 59.8*59.8/24=149kN, is this correct?

Yup.

I use fixed separation=on...

This is one of the setup properties that you need to be very careful with.

Furthermore, the stress in the joint is high, there are considerable regions where it is above 200MPa

Did your stresses converge?

Thank you for your fast and well structured response.

I decided to create a new, similar dummy-model, this time with one solid model of bolt, nut and washers. I introduces 5 contacts, between the plates and bolt head, nut and shaft. I am now using a bit lower prestress, only 33.8kN(I did two runs to adjust the prestress).

I did a multi-pass adaptive analysis with maximum p-level of 9. The analysis converged, but showed me stress-errors of 27%. Creo2.JPG

The stresses in the joint are lower now, but still reach over 100MPa in certain regions. Creo1.JPG

Do you know why the stress error is so big? Is it possible that my constraints are poorly set up? Z is the axial directionCreo3.JPG

Best

Andreas

I could be from your constraints; I'm looking at the last picture you posted and am not entirely clear what you're trying to do with them. Can you post your model?

It's also very likely that you have a stress singularity due to a re-entrant corner. Stress singularities are something innate to the finite element method and every software package out there, but they are particularly problematic for the p-version of the finite element method with automated convergence algorithms. Dealing with stress singularities is rather tricky, but in the case of a re-entrant corner (a sharp inner 90 deg corner) one method to resolve the issue is to add a fillet. Below shows the same 2D axisymmetry contact model with the same convergence criteria; the only difference is the addition of a fillet at the top of the bolt where the shank meets the threads. The peak stress with a fillet is almost 1/5th of that without a fillet.

Fastener+Contact.png

Thanks again for your quick response,

See my model attached. I tried to insert a rounding at the indicated position, but the my model failes to mesh. I also tried a chamfer, but that made the stresses worse.

Feel free to edit the constraining, fillet, etc and re-upload it.

thanks a lot in advance

Try adding 3 almost 0 stiffness ground springs to each part to stablize the parts for the start of the run.

Don Anderson

Hi Don,

thank you for your answer. I ran your model. I still have a stress error of over 30%. Did you leave the constraints as they were or do you want me to change them?

Best Andreas

Andreas,

I left the constraints as you had them as I do not have enough background on the system being tested to determine what's required for the simulation.
Don

Don,

The purpose of the model is to find a way to accuratly simulate the stresses that occur in a joint through a prestressed bolt. Whatever you must change in the model to achieve that is appreciated. At the moment, I get stress errors of around 30%, or 300MPa (in absolut numbers).

Andreas

Here's the results from a modified model I made for your parts. I'll try to upload the model later.

Fastener_Contact.png

Hi Steven,

I used the preload feature on the component as a hole( I modelled bolt, nut and washers as one part). (I also defined a measure to adjust the preload value.)

You are right, my main interest ist the stress distribution in the plates.

Your results look very well. Would you mind posting your model so I can see how you did it in detail?

Best Andreas

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