WF5 or Creo Elements/Pro
‎Mar 17, 2011
04:18 PM
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04:18 PM
WF5 or Creo Elements/Pro
Hey everyone,
Got a quick question or 2...
I am in the process of upgrading from WF4 to either WF5 or Creo Elements
which I believe is similar to WF5, if not the same altogether.
My question is should I skip over WF5 and step right to Creo
Elements/Pro or is Creo still more or less in the testing phase?
Some details that I am curious about are:
* Doe the interface/environment look exactly to same from WF5 to
Creo?
* Do all the Mapkeys/configs that worked in WF5 automatically
work in Creo?
* Is WF5 soon going to go away and be replaced by Creo?
* Are there any advantages or disadvantages to going right into
Creo Elements/Pro?
* Will Creo Elements work fine with EMX6.0?
Thanks
Paul
Paul Mailloux
Cad/Cam Applications Engineer
NyproMold Inc
144 Pleasant Street
Clinton MA 01510
Phone: (978) 368 - 4598
Fax: (978) 365 - 4548
www.NyproMold.com
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Got a quick question or 2...
I am in the process of upgrading from WF4 to either WF5 or Creo Elements
which I believe is similar to WF5, if not the same altogether.
My question is should I skip over WF5 and step right to Creo
Elements/Pro or is Creo still more or less in the testing phase?
Some details that I am curious about are:
* Doe the interface/environment look exactly to same from WF5 to
Creo?
* Do all the Mapkeys/configs that worked in WF5 automatically
work in Creo?
* Is WF5 soon going to go away and be replaced by Creo?
* Are there any advantages or disadvantages to going right into
Creo Elements/Pro?
* Will Creo Elements work fine with EMX6.0?
Thanks
Paul
Paul Mailloux
Cad/Cam Applications Engineer
NyproMold Inc
144 Pleasant Street
Clinton MA 01510
Phone: (978) 368 - 4598
Fax: (978) 365 - 4548
www.NyproMold.com
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‎Mar 17, 2011
05:38 PM
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‎Mar 17, 2011
05:38 PM
WF5 = Creo/Elements Pro
Creo 1.0 (minus the Elements/Pro), on the other hand, is not the same as
WF5, I don't think anyway. Creo 1.0 is due out this summer, I believe.
Doug Schaefer
Creo 1.0 (minus the Elements/Pro), on the other hand, is not the same as
WF5, I don't think anyway. Creo 1.0 is due out this summer, I believe.
Doug Schaefer
‎Mar 18, 2011
06:56 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
06:56 AM
AND, without hesitation, I would pre-recommend skipping Creo 1.0.
‎Mar 18, 2011
07:13 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
07:13 AM
Pro/Engineer Wildfire 5.0 M060 is the same as all other 5.0 releases.
With the M070 build it is now Creo Elements/Pro. New load point, new
look to the shortcut icon, and new splash screens. All other
functionality is the same as any other 5.0 release. One thing that is
different is if you are downloading the software from PTC, for a release
after M060, you will need to make sure that you go to Creo Elements/Pro
section as shown below:
This caused some confusion when we were looking for the M070 release.
Like Doug said Creo 1.0 is due this summer. I would agree with Steve,
skip it.
Hope this helps clear things up.
Brian
With the M070 build it is now Creo Elements/Pro. New load point, new
look to the shortcut icon, and new splash screens. All other
functionality is the same as any other 5.0 release. One thing that is
different is if you are downloading the software from PTC, for a release
after M060, you will need to make sure that you go to Creo Elements/Pro
section as shown below:
This caused some confusion when we were looking for the M070 release.
Like Doug said Creo 1.0 is due this summer. I would agree with Steve,
skip it.
Hope this helps clear things up.
Brian
‎Mar 18, 2011
07:15 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
07:15 AM
If everyone follows your recommendation, then there won't be any guinea pigs
to flush out all the bugs!
to flush out all the bugs!
‎Mar 18, 2011
07:26 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
07:26 AM
This should be done by the designing group through design analysis and design bench testing prior to production and fielding of the product. This is manufacturing and production 101 folks.
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‎Mar 18, 2011
07:59 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
07:59 AM
Nobody listens to me.
There are always groups who are on the cutting edge for whatever reason. Us folk in the oilfield, we tend to lag a decade or two.
There are always groups who are on the cutting edge for whatever reason. Us folk in the oilfield, we tend to lag a decade or two.
‎Mar 18, 2011
08:52 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
08:52 AM
That is the problem with PTC software. They leave the debugging to their customers as a means of reducing their internal costs.
Creo 1.0 will only be put into production at the F000 build by the brave who have time to submit and track bug reports.
By the time the m050 or m060 build get released, Creo 1.0 may be stable enough to put into production by those who have a need to use it.
Since Creo 2.0 is needed for Windchill, most of us will have to wait anyway for that release.
Thank you,
Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.
Creo 1.0 will only be put into production at the F000 build by the brave who have time to submit and track bug reports.
By the time the m050 or m060 build get released, Creo 1.0 may be stable enough to put into production by those who have a need to use it.
Since Creo 2.0 is needed for Windchill, most of us will have to wait anyway for that release.
Thank you,
Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.
‎Mar 18, 2011
09:30 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
09:30 AM
Brian - "New load point" does it mean you can't do an update installation into the same load point directory let's say of an M060 installation?
regards
Jan
‎Mar 18, 2011
09:38 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
09:38 AM
I am sure that you can, but you would have to specify the load point.
Here is the load point path for M060 (C:\Program Files\proeWildfire
5.0\bin) and for M070 (C:\Program Files\PTC\Creo Elements\Pro5.0\bin).
These are the default location of the installation. We haven't tried
specifying a different location yet, this is on a test station. We are
hoping that once we specify the existing load point it will update the
same as in the past.
Brian
Here is the load point path for M060 (C:\Program Files\proeWildfire
5.0\bin) and for M070 (C:\Program Files\PTC\Creo Elements\Pro5.0\bin).
These are the default location of the installation. We haven't tried
specifying a different location yet, this is on a test station. We are
hoping that once we specify the existing load point it will update the
same as in the past.
Brian
‎Mar 18, 2011
10:05 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
10:05 AM
Well I'll be installing and having a play, see what it's like. We
certainly won't be moving from WF5....Oops Creo Elephants Pro until a
later release.
certainly won't be moving from WF5....Oops Creo Elephants Pro until a
later release.
‎Mar 18, 2011
10:18 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
10:18 AM
I still never use a folder with a space in the name for any PTC product install!
My PTC install loadpoint is always <drive>:\PTC\<product_version>. Example: P:\PTC\Proewf4_m150-x64 or P:\PTC\Proewf4_m150.
IT has installed some builds to the default Program Files folders and they do work, but I still prefer the 'no space in folder name' folders.
Thank you,
Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.
My PTC install loadpoint is always <drive>:\PTC\<product_version>. Example: P:\PTC\Proewf4_m150-x64 or P:\PTC\Proewf4_m150.
IT has installed some builds to the default Program Files folders and they do work, but I still prefer the 'no space in folder name' folders.
Thank you,
Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.
‎Mar 18, 2011
10:41 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
10:41 AM
Played with the install and changed the name to not have spaces in as all
my scripts broke and had to have quotes round all calls from cmd prompt
Best Regards
Chris Collinson
CAD Administrator
my scripts broke and had to have quotes round all calls from cmd prompt
Best Regards
Chris Collinson
CAD Administrator
‎Mar 18, 2011
11:40 AM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
11:40 AM
I'll second that !
‎Mar 18, 2011
12:05 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
12:05 PM
You're the new guy, right? (lol)
‎Mar 18, 2011
12:12 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
12:12 PM
The new guy? Been on Pro-e since version 7, yeah right new guy 🙂
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‎Mar 18, 2011
12:18 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
12:18 PM
NYUK! NYUK! NYUK!! Tanks... I needed a good laugh... must be Friday!
Thanks...
Paul Korenkiewicz
FEV, Inc.
4554 Glenmeade
Auburn Hills, MI., 48326
Thanks...
Paul Korenkiewicz
FEV, Inc.
4554 Glenmeade
Auburn Hills, MI., 48326
‎Mar 18, 2011
01:22 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
01:22 PM
Dad? Is that you? 😉
Tim P. Cooper
LM IS&GS-CIVIL, Houston
ITL Facility and Mockups Design
LM2 / Cube 228L
Physical Address: Correspondence:
2400 NASA Pkwy LM2, 228L
Houston, TX 77058 P.O. Box 58487
(281) 333-6735 Houston, TX 77258-8784
(281) 333-???? (F)
Tim P. Cooper
LM IS&GS-CIVIL, Houston
ITL Facility and Mockups Design
LM2 / Cube 228L
Physical Address: Correspondence:
2400 NASA Pkwy LM2, 228L
Houston, TX 77058 P.O. Box 58487
(281) 333-6735 Houston, TX 77258-8784
(281) 333-???? (F)
‎Mar 18, 2011
02:30 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
02:30 PM
@Tim... ROFL...
@Nathan.... For not being the new guy, you should know by now then....
@Nathan.... For not being the new guy, you should know by now then....
‎Mar 18, 2011
02:47 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
02:47 PM
"That is the problem with PTC software. They leave the debugging to their customers as a means of reducing their internal costs."
I'm one of themorons that waste a lot of time submitting bug fixes to PTC... the worst part is that they do not fix them... so I don't know why I keep doing it... as I said, I'm naive a moron...
Thank you,
Regards,
Daniel Santos - CAM Support
GE Oil&Gas
‎Mar 18, 2011
03:43 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
03:43 PM
Being Friday and all, isn't that one of the definitions of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results?
Regards,
Jeff Horacek
Sr. Designer
[cid:image001.jpg@01CBE583.34804890]
STERIS Corporation
5960 Heisley Rd.
Mentor, OH 44060
(440)392-7721 P
(440)392-8954 F
Regards,
Jeff Horacek
Sr. Designer
[cid:image001.jpg@01CBE583.34804890]
STERIS Corporation
5960 Heisley Rd.
Mentor, OH 44060
(440)392-7721 P
(440)392-8954 F
‎Mar 18, 2011
03:54 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
03:54 PM
Hi Jeff,
That's the perfect definition of insanity... I think PTC only acts this way because we as customers have been putting up with this for the last decade at least... fortunately this is starting to change, and Creo is not the reason... Creo is their attempt to stop the migration of their customers to other systems... not sure if Creo will work... the problem it's more about a customer care approach. So far I only saw lots of marketing and NO public excuses for leaving the customers alone for more than a decade...
Just my personal opinion...
That's the perfect definition of insanity... I think PTC only acts this way because we as customers have been putting up with this for the last decade at least... fortunately this is starting to change, and Creo is not the reason... Creo is their attempt to stop the migration of their customers to other systems... not sure if Creo will work... the problem it's more about a customer care approach. So far I only saw lots of marketing and NO public excuses for leaving the customers alone for more than a decade...
Just my personal opinion...
‎Mar 18, 2011
04:16 PM
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‎Mar 18, 2011
04:16 PM
Hi all,
Haven't added a new ProE symbol, in this case a company logo, in a while and am having problems. I have a dxf/dwg to use but can't figure out how to reference it. Is there something basic I'm missing?
Thanks,
Stefan
WF2 (hopefully WF5 very soon)
Haven't added a new ProE symbol, in this case a company logo, in a while and am having problems. I have a dxf/dwg to use but can't figure out how to reference it. Is there something basic I'm missing?
Thanks,
Stefan
WF2 (hopefully WF5 very soon)