WF5 or Creo Elements/Pro

[PaulMailloux]

Hey everyone,

Got a quick question or 2...

I am in the process of upgrading from WF4 to either WF5 or Creo Elements
which I believe is similar to WF5, if not the same altogether.

My question is should I skip over WF5 and step right to Creo
Elements/Pro or is Creo still more or less in the testing phase?



Some details that I am curious about are:

* Doe the interface/environment look exactly to same from WF5 to
Creo?

* Do all the Mapkeys/configs that worked in WF5 automatically
work in Creo?

* Is WF5 soon going to go away and be replaced by Creo?

* Are there any advantages or disadvantages to going right into
Creo Elements/Pro?

* Will Creo Elements work fine with EMX6.0?





Thanks

Paul





Paul Mailloux

Cad/Cam Applications Engineer

NyproMold Inc

144 Pleasant Street

Clinton MA 01510

Phone: (978) 368 - 4598

Fax: (978) 365 - 4548



www.NyproMold.com
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[dgschaefer]

WF5 = Creo/Elements Pro



Creo 1.0 (minus the Elements/Pro), on the other hand, is not the same as
WF5, I don't think anyway.  Creo 1.0 is due out this summer, I believe.



Doug Schaefer

[StephenW]

AND, without hesitation, I would pre-recommend skipping Creo 1.0.

[bparrish]

Pro/Engineer Wildfire 5.0 M060 is the same as all other 5.0 releases.
With the M070 build it is now Creo Elements/Pro. New load point, new
look to the shortcut icon, and new splash screens. All other
functionality is the same as any other 5.0 release. One thing that is
different is if you are downloading the software from PTC, for a release
after M060, you will need to make sure that you go to Creo Elements/Pro
section as shown below:



This caused some confusion when we were looking for the M070 release.



Like Doug said Creo 1.0 is due this summer. I would agree with Steve,
skip it.



Hope this helps clear things up.

Brian

[nrollins]

If everyone follows your recommendation, then there won't be any guinea pigs
to flush out all the bugs!

[tafc323]

This should be done by the designing group through design analysis and design bench testing prior to production and fielding of the product. This is manufacturing and production 101 folks.


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[StephenW]

Nobody listens to me.

There are always groups who are on the cutting edge for whatever reason. Us folk in the oilfield, we tend to lag a decade or two.

[BenLoosli]

That is the problem with PTC software. They leave the debugging to their customers as a means of reducing their internal costs.
Creo 1.0 will only be put into production at the F000 build by the brave who have time to submit and track bug reports.
By the time the m050 or m060 build get released, Creo 1.0 may be stable enough to put into production by those who have a need to use it.
Since Creo 2.0 is needed for Windchill, most of us will have to wait anyway for that release.

Thank you,

Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.

[jan-simon.schmi]

Brian - "New load point" does it mean you can't do an update installation into the same load point directory let's say of an M060 installation?

regards
Jan

[bparrish]

I am sure that you can, but you would have to specify the load point.
Here is the load point path for M060 (C:\Program Files\proeWildfire
5.0\bin) and for M070 (C:\Program Files\PTC\Creo Elements\Pro5.0\bin).
These are the default location of the installation. We haven't tried
specifying a different location yet, this is on a test station. We are
hoping that once we specify the existing load point it will update the
same as in the past.



Brian

[JeffTaylor]

Well I'll be installing and having a play, see what it's like. We
certainly won't be moving from WF5....Oops Creo Elephants Pro until a
later release.

[BenLoosli]

I still never use a folder with a space in the name for any PTC product install!
My PTC install loadpoint is always <drive>:\PTC\<product_version>. Example: P:\PTC\Proewf4_m150-x64 or P:\PTC\Proewf4_m150.
IT has installed some builds to the default Program Files folders and they do work, but I still prefer the 'no space in folder name' folders.

Thank you,

Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.

[ChrisCollinson]

Played with the install and changed the name to not have spaces in as all
my scripts broke and had to have quotes round all calls from cmd prompt


Best Regards

Chris Collinson
CAD Administrator

[BobSchwerdlin]

I'll second that !

[A.DelNegro]

You're the new guy, right? (lol)

[tafc323]

The new guy? Been on Pro-e since version 7, yeah right new guy 🙂
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[PAULKORENKIEWIC]

NYUK! NYUK! NYUK!! Tanks... I needed a good laugh... must be Friday!

Thanks...

Paul Korenkiewicz
FEV, Inc.
4554 Glenmeade
Auburn Hills, MI., 48326

[tcooper]

Dad? Is that you? 😉

Tim P. Cooper
LM IS&GS-CIVIL, Houston
ITL Facility and Mockups Design
LM2 / Cube 228L

Physical Address: Correspondence:
2400 NASA Pkwy LM2, 228L
Houston, TX 77058 P.O. Box 58487
(281) 333-6735 Houston, TX 77258-8784
(281) 333-???? (F)

[A.DelNegro]

@Tim... ROFL...



@Nathan.... For not being the new guy, you should know by now then....

[DanielSantos]

"That is the problem with PTC software. They leave the debugging to their customers as a means of reducing their internal costs."

I'm one of themorons that waste a lot of time submitting bug fixes to PTC... the worst part is that they do not fix them... so I don't know why I keep doing it... as I said, I'm naive a moron...

Thank you,

Regards,

Daniel Santos - CAM Support

GE Oil&Gas

[JeffHoracek]

Being Friday and all, isn't that one of the definitions of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results?

Regards,

Jeff Horacek
Sr. Designer
[cid:image001.jpg@01CBE583.34804890]
STERIS Corporation
5960 Heisley Rd.
Mentor, OH 44060
(440)392-7721 P
(440)392-8954 F

[DanielSantos]

Hi Jeff,

That's the perfect definition of insanity... I think PTC only acts this way because we as customers have been putting up with this for the last decade at least... fortunately this is starting to change, and Creo is not the reason... Creo is their attempt to stop the migration of their customers to other systems... not sure if Creo will work... the problem it's more about a customer care approach. So far I only saw lots of marketing and NO public excuses for leaving the customers alone for more than a decade...

Just my personal opinion...

[ptc-169947]

Hi all,

Haven't added a new ProE symbol, in this case a company logo, in a while and am having problems. I have a dxf/dwg to use but can't figure out how to reference it. Is there something basic I'm missing?

Thanks,
Stefan

WF2 (hopefully WF5 very soon)