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Flat pattern of a part which was created using a Swept Blend

Vladimir_G
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Flat pattern of a part which was created using a Swept Blend

Hello, everyone!

I would like to get a flat pattern of a part, which was created using a Swept Blend in the Sheetmetal Module of Creo Parametric.

This Swept Blend consist of two sections. Each of them has the same quantity of segments. I used a Convert Tool to add bends on sharp edges to round sharp edges.

But when I was trying to create a flat pattern of this part, Creo displayed a warning message that there is no geometry to unbend.

Does anybody know how to solve this problem?

I attached a picture and a model of this part.

Thank you in advance.

Best regards, Vladimir.

q1.jpg

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Hello, Davor, Antonius!

Thank you for your help.

Eventually I managed to get the flat pattern of my model.

a1.jpg

The problem was that some of the sides of my part were twisted. That happend because the lines on the opposite sections, which I used to make the Boundary Blend, weren't parallel to each other.

a2.jpg

Best regards, Vladimir.

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There may not be enough "flange" along the bottom through the radii to unbend. Maybe try making the triangles parallograms instead.

Hello, Antonius.

Thank you for you advice. I've tried it but unfortunately it didn't help.

I also attempted to create this part using the Boundary Blend tool. The result was the same. Creo displayed a warning message that there is no geometry for unbending.

q1.jpg

That's strange, because I imported much more complicated part which was made in Inventor 2012 and got its flat pattern without any difficulties.

q2.jpg

Best regards, Vladimir.

I played with your part a little bit last night. I don't have the full version of sheet metal appearantly because I couldn't blend with thickness or radii. Makes the default sheetmetal kind of useless for me although I do a lot of boxes and panels. I just rarely need to unfold anything so no biggy. I know how to calculate my own bend allowances.

As for why your part won't unfold, I do not know. I was a bit surprised as to how the two sketches meshed with a few extra lines connecting them.

I think I'll stick to the simple stuff for now. So many things I know are there but just can't find it on the new interface. Give me the old 2000i legacy intereface and I can fly

DavorGranic
14-Alexandrite
(To:Vladimir_G)

Hi Vladimir,

You have same problem answered here http://communities.ptc.com/message/165189#165189

You also have part that can be unbent there for download.

Cheers

Hello, Davor.

Thank you for your answer.

Actually, I've seen your model before. That's great. I repeated it step by step and flatten it.

That is the reason why I attempted to use the Boundary Blend tool for my part.

But I would like to exchange every conical bend for four angled bends in order to create a Table of Bends (as you can see in the picture above). I would like to show bend lines in a view with a flat pattern and point the value of the angle of each bend in the table of bends.

When I try to use your technique for my part it doesn't work. I can't flatten the model.

Best regards, Vladimir.

P.S.: There is an option in Lofted Bends tool in SolidWorks which is called Bend Line Control. It enables you to set the number of bend lines for conical bend.

That's what I'm looking for in Creo Parametric.

b1.jpg

b2.jpg

DavorGranic
14-Alexandrite
(To:Vladimir_G)

I guess you need to put it in "idea" area as a enhancment request.

Maybe you can make quilt from outer surface and flatten it then use Flatten Quilt Deformation tool on solid part. To me its too much work. PTC must make something simpler.

Hello, Davor, Antonius!

Thank you for your help.

Eventually I managed to get the flat pattern of my model.

a1.jpg

The problem was that some of the sides of my part were twisted. That happend because the lines on the opposite sections, which I used to make the Boundary Blend, weren't parallel to each other.

a2.jpg

Best regards, Vladimir.

Vladimir, I am happy that you achieved your goal.

The error you found explains why I saw the extra extension lines... and in hindsight, I remember seeing an odd alignment along the top edge of your part. Now I understand what to look for.

Thank you for reporting your findings.

Hi Vladimir,

I'm with problem in a part similar. How do you resolved?

best regards,

Cesar

You might look here too: how to develop this?

Hi Antonius,

Thank you for your answer. But I was unable to do.2014-08-28_15-11-43.jpg

Best regards,

Cesar

If the faces of those corners are not perfectly flat, it cannot unbend the part.

Here is another relevant post:

Part to unbend

One tool to find the problem faces is the option:

config - mesh_spline_surf yes

If you see lines through a surface in wireframe display mode, the surface is twisted.

I did do, but I don't know how. I made a copy an exemple.

2014-08-28_16-39-49.jpg

Thank you.

See - Easy!

another question, do you know why (figure)?

2014-08-28_17-32-48.jpg

Best regardes

It all depends on how this was made. It meets the development length x 2.

If this is a full version Creo file, we can have a look. You can post files using the advanced editor.

Thank you!

César

This is what the cylinder part should look like in flat pattern.

I am using the default Y-Factor.

Notice that I used a revolve to get the initial shape.

Then a rip to separate this; and the Split Area to have the unfold happened across from the rip.

cylinder.PNG

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