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OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

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OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

We are evaluating new workstations and video cards to run Creo Parametric 2.0 M100. I had some unexpected results and would appreciate some comments.

We use Dell workstations. We evaluated two T3610 workstations running Windows 7 64 bit:

1. Xeon E5-1650v2 6 core 3.5 GHz 12MB cache 64 GB (machine #1)

2. Xeon E5-1620v2 4 core, 3.7 GHz 10 MB cache 64 GB (machine #2).

Although the machines were connected to the network (for licenses), all software and data files were local on the C: drive. The machine were procured a few months ago.

The video cards:

1. Nvidia Quadro K2000 (vc #1)

2. AMD Firepro W5000 (vc #2)

3. Nvidia Quadro K4000 (vc #3)

Running the OCUS benchmark (64 bit) (Thanks, Olaf) using the latest, not PTC certified, drivers yielded the following results (times in seconds):
Machine #1: VC #1 VC #2 VC #3
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OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

A couple years ago I had trouble with the video card performance until my IT guy figured out he had to upgrade the chipset drivers (motherboard drivers) so it could use the better video cards.

If your computer are older, you might try that.


Steve Williams
Pro/E Version 15/16 (Circa 1995/1996)

OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

It is never easy to explain benchmark results (let alone predict them),
so it's always good to benchmark.
I'll try and explain some of this below.

OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

Well said Patrick!
I agree with everything Patrick pointed out and might only add one more
point.
In general, (I know there is some crossover so bear with me a bit...) Xeon
Processors require "server class" motherboards, and server class
motherboards are just plain slow. (on purpose... They are built for
reliability, not speed.)
Every Xeon based system I have ever built and tested is just slow compared
to an Overclocked i7 based system.
I do custom build Xeon based workstations for special applications like
heavy FEA, or multi-threaded rendering work. But in my opinion (and I have
many satisfied customers who agree) for the average everyday Pro/E user,
there is nothing faster than an Overclocked i7 based system.

Thanks
Bernie

Bernie Gruman
Owner / Designer / Builder
www.GrumanCreations.com



On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Patrick Asselman <-<br/>> wrote:

> It is never easy to explain benchmark results (let alone predict them),
> so it's always good to benchmark.
> I'll try and explain some of this below.
>
>

RE: OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

Bernie is absolutely correct. A Core i7 with the fastest clock speed will run ProE/Creo the fastest. However, overclocking is not really an option at manylarge companies. I push ProE pretty hard on my HP z420 workstation:



  • Intel Xeon E5-1620 3.6Ghz 10MB cache 4 cores

  • 16GB DDR3-1600 ECC (4x4GB)

  • 128GB SSD 1st drive, 500GB 10k SATA 2nd drive

  • NVIDIA Quadro K2000 2GB

  • ...and I'm pretty satisfied with performance, with a reasonable price.

    RE: OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

    We are benchmarking (OCUSB6) Dell Workstations including a T1700. I find the same results with much higher overall score, nearly double the submitted result of #10 Dell T1700 @1153 we are reporting 2146. (64-bit version)


    Looking closer we find the last 2 tests PDF and DXF file create much higher scores in 550 range. This is obviously influencing the overall score. Any thoughts?


    Bob what scores did you have for the PDF and DXF file create?


    Thanks


    Eric Vidra




    “I am employed by Toyota but I am not speaking on behalf of the Company. These are my personal opinions only.”

    OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

    Are you sure you use only the configuration of the benchmark?Remove all your own configuration files and start creo via a dos prompt in the ocusb6 folder (call the full path to parametric.exe)Hope this helps.


    Eric Vidra --- [proesys] - RE: OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro) ---
    From:"Eric Vidra" <->To" <->Date:Wed, Jun 4, 2014 23:05Subject[proesys] - RE: OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

    We are benchmarking (OCUSB6) Dell Workstations including a T1700. I find the same results with much higher overall score, nearly double the submitted result of #10 Dell T1700 @1153 we are reporting 2146. (64-bit version)
    Looking closer we find the last 2 tests PDF and DXF file create much higher scores in 550 range. This is obviously influencing the overall score. Any thoughts?
    Bob what scores did you have for the PDF and DXF file create?
    Thanks
    Eric Vidra


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    OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

    Thanks, Yes, clean OCUSB6 folder, with no configs other than yours. I was using the alternative method described in readme file with creo shortcut start script edited to start in OCUS benchmark folder.




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    OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

    Hi Eric,

    How much RAM does your system have?
    If it's 8Gb or less you might experience problems with memory becoming full.
    Then you would actually see the last tests become extremely slow, like you see now.

    Which build of Creo 2.0 are you using?
    Maybe it's a specific build issue.


    Kind regards,

    Olaf Corten




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    From: Eric Vidra <eric_vidra@toyota.com>
    To: Olaf Corten <->
    Cc: "-" <->
    Date: 04-06-2014 23:24
    Subject: RE: Re:[proesys] - RE: OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)



    Thanks, Yes, clean OCUSB6 folder, with no configs other than yours. I was using the alternative method described in readme file with creo shortcut start script edited to start in OCUS benchmark folder.





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    OCUS Benchmark - Video Cards (Quadro, Firepro)

    Eric, PDF 91 sec, DXF 74 sec

    Based on Bernie Gruman's comments, I tested a Dell M6800 laptop which has an i7 processor with 32GB main memory, a Quadro K4100M graphics card and a 500GB solid state hybrid drive. Compared to the T3610 overall score of 1628, the M6800 came in at 978 seconds with an external monitor set to full resolution. That is about 60% less. A dell T1700 desktop can be configured with an i7; I am hoping to be able to test one.

    A word of caution. I had some of our engineers replicate everyday design tasks. In general, the times on the M6800 were typically only 10-20% faster. One set of tests was faster on the T3610. The insight gained from the OCUS benchmark needs to be combined with your design practices.

    Bob Monat