From license file
#PROE_FAPAAX 2 Creo Advanced XE with AAX (formerly Pro/
Creo 1.0 Flt Lic perm
#PROE_FoundationAdv 2 Creo Parametric (formerly Foundation XE)
Creo 1.0 Flt Lic perm
Maybe it's the XE that makes a difference.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Steve Cooke (C & S)
<-> wrote:
> Michael
>
> Was there an upgrade cost?
>
> I have asked this specific question and this was the answer from my VAR
> (Only one in South Africa so I don't have much choice!)
>
> Quoting:
> "To answer the second part. on upgrades:
> We can upgrade from Creo Foundation to Creo Parametric, it sells for R20,000
> (based on USD of R 😎 and requires that your maintenance be up to date on
> the package before we can upgrade it."
> End quote
>
> In spite of the above he also is quick to explain that there is no such
> thing as Creo Foundation to buy as a new user. But any functionality missing
> from your ProEngineer foundation license will be missing in Creo if you move
> on to Creo without paying the upgrade fee detailed above.
>
> Examples of this would be the Design Animation module and Surface which are
> now included in Creo. It is not in my foundation license because we bought
> in at Version 19. I have not paid maintenance since WF2, but even if I had
> the additional functionality in Creo Parametric would still not be available
> unless I upgrade.
>
> Depending on when you bought your foundation licenses you might not even
> notice any loss of functionality.
>
> The issue of legacy as PTC re-bundles things is a sore point for me. When
> we bought, I was forced to buy Pro/WEDM and Pro/Turn in the Pro/NC MFG
> bundle even though I knew I would never use either of them. I pleaded
> unsuccessfully to buy NC/Mill stand alone. Later on NC/Mill was sold stand
> alone, with additional features we did not have access to and this after
> years of me paying maintenance (at the higher cost) for software I have
> never touched. When I moaned I was told to buy a new seat of NC Mill and
> abandon my NC/MFG license, then I could enjoy the benefits of the additional
> features!! IT was at that point that I stopped paying maintenance!! Leaves
> a bitter taste and played a part in recently abandoning the NC Mfg License
> and buying a machining package from a different supplier.
>
> Their reasoning is apparently that the additional functionality has an R&D
> cost and I should have to pay my share of that if I want the additional
> functionality. There was no suitable answer given when I asked what portion
> of my maintenance paid faithfully over many years went towards their R&D,
> nor why I had paid a higher price for a less effective product than was now
> being offered at a lower price! This is not a good example of how to reward
> your loyal customers. (Note that having not paid maintenance since WF2, I no
> longer count myself as a loyal customer!)
>
> This upgrade cost to Creo Parametric is simply more of the same strategy but
> surely a better way to develop loyal customers would be to offer maintenance
> paying customers what ever is in the new package when they re-bundle the
> software to match what ever they have to do to compete in the current
> market.
>
> Regards
>
>
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> Steve
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