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A very difficult task that...

AlfredFlaßhaar
15-Moonstone

A very difficult task that...

...not to be forgotten. It comes from the Irish MO of 1990, Paper 2, Problem 9, and, as a student-friendly problem, is one of the most difficult I've ever encountered:
Let t be a real number, and let (a with index n) a_n = 2*cos(t/(2^n)), n=1, 2, ...
Let b_n be the product a_1*a_2*...*a_n. Simplify the term b_n so that it does not contain a product of n factors, and prove lim(n-->00) b_n = (2*cos(t)+1)/3 .

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And the question regarding Mathcad here is ... which one?
Whether Mathcad's symbolics is capable of simplifying the term bn(t) accordingly and specifying the limit value?
I would guess - with a high probability “no”.

 

By the way, there seems to be something wrong with your statement, as you can easily see if you look at t=0.
For t=0, bn=2n (i.e. grows for n-->oo over all limits). However, when inserted into the limit function you specified, t=0 gives the value 1.

 

The term you name for bn could be simplified to bn=sin(t)/sin(t/2n) by dividing bn by sin(t/2n) and continuously applying the theorem of addition -> 2*cos(t/2k)*sin(t/2k) = sin(t/2k-1).

But also this simplified bn=sin(t)/sin(t/2n) goes beyond all limits if n->oo, doesn't it?

I can't see a limit of (2*cos(t)+1)/3 here.

 

Maybe it helps if you post a picture of the original task or provide a link.

 

 

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:Werner_E)

After playing around with the problem a bit, I now think that you forgot to enter a summand -1 when you provided a_n, right?
That would make the limit function correct and, as I suspected, Mathcad's symbolic does not succeed in either simplifying the product nor in calculating its limit.

But at least we can 'show' by plotting and visual inspection that we seem to have a rather fast convergence:

Werner_E_2-1751663391175.png

And yes, I also think that it is indeed quite a difficult task.

Yes, the "-1" was forgotten - sorry.

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