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Find the area ABD.

ttokoro
21-Topaz I

Find the area ABD.

∠BAE=∠EAC, area BDE=1. Find area ABE.

 

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Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:ttokoro)

 

Werner_E_1-1747321498420.png

???? How could the triangle BDE have an area as much as 1 cm^2 ????

The max area possible is 0.45 cm^2 for theta=45°

Werner_E_2-1747321664479.png

ani25.gif

 

BTW, you know that the youtube link you posted is a picture and so is not clickable or text-copyable!? Sure you don't expect us to retype it. 😉

 

And then - the area of which triangle you really are looking for? The thread topic and in the Prime screenshot we read ABD, but the thread body and the screenshot header says ABE !??

 

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ttokoro
21-Topaz I
(To:ttokoro)

Puzzle 24 is find integer a, b and c, But it is too hard to solve.

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Puzzle 25 If you find a answer, how area size of BDE, that has the largest value, and find the area ABE.

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:ttokoro)


@ttokoro wrote:

Puzzle 24 is find integer a, b and c, But it is too hard to solve.

 


Hmm, Mathcad is not made for calculations in number theory and so can't solve diophantic equations.

But using brute force it easily can find solutions like 4; -1; 11 or 9;-5;11 or a bit larger -81; -72; 40

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ttokoro
21-Topaz I
(To:Werner_E)

And also all positive integers a, b and c are available.

 

a=154476802108746166441951315019919837485664325669565431700026634898253202035277999,
b=36875131794129999827197811565225474825492979968971970996283137471637224634055579,
c=4373612677928697257861252602371390152816537558161613618621437993378423467772036

 

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:ttokoro)


@ttokoro wrote:

And also all positive integers a, b and c are available.

 

a=154476802108746166441951315019919837485664325669565431700026634898253202035277999,
b=36875131794129999827197811565225474825492979968971970996283137471637224634055579,
c=4373612677928697257861252602371390152816537558161613618621437993378423467772036

 


Indeed!

Werner_E_0-1747358176446.png

The additional requirement for only "positive" integers truly makes a huge difference and is definitely a challenge I am not up to.

Guess that brute force in Mathcad or Prime using symbolic evaluation would not finish in my lifetime to find these numbers 😉

 

Just found that solution publishes here

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantische_Gleichung#Summe_dreier_Quotienten_a%E2%88%95b+c_+_b%E2%88%95c+a_+_c%E2%88%95a+b_=_n

by searching for one of the solution numbers.

 

Do you know how this result was found?

EDIT: Found a nice explanation here; https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-find-the-positive-integer-solutions-to-frac-x-y+z-+-frac-y-z+x-+-frac-z-x+y-4

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:ttokoro)

 

Werner_E_1-1747321498420.png

???? How could the triangle BDE have an area as much as 1 cm^2 ????

The max area possible is 0.45 cm^2 for theta=45°

Werner_E_2-1747321664479.png

ani25.gif

 

BTW, you know that the youtube link you posted is a picture and so is not clickable or text-copyable!? Sure you don't expect us to retype it. 😉

 

And then - the area of which triangle you really are looking for? The thread topic and in the Prime screenshot we read ABD, but the thread body and the screenshot header says ABE !??

 

ttokoro
21-Topaz I
(To:ttokoro)

The original question is find the ratio S(BDE):S(AEC).

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:ttokoro)


@ttokoro wrote:

The original question is find the ratio S(BDE):S(AEC).


3:8, independent from theta

 

BDE : AEC : ABE : ABD : ABC = 3 : 8 : 12 : 15 : 20

 

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