How to solve differential equations?
Jan 09, 2010
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How to solve differential equations?
Hello,
I am new with differential equations, and need to know how to solve a simple one:
EI*y''(x) = M(x)
M(x) = w*x/2
Initial conditions:
x=0, y(0) = 0
x= L/2 y'(L/2) = 0
Thank you,
Johan
I am new with differential equations, and need to know how to solve a simple one:
EI*y''(x) = M(x)
M(x) = w*x/2
Initial conditions:
x=0, y(0) = 0
x= L/2 y'(L/2) = 0
Thank you,
Johan
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On 1/9/2010 3:57:40 PM, johanpg wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am new with differential
>equations, and need to know
>how to solve a simple one:
>
>EI*y''(x) = M(x)
>
>M(x) = w*x/2
>
>Initial conditions:
>
>x=0, y(0) = 0
>
>x= L/2 y'(L/2) = 0
>
>Thank you,
>Johan
________________________
For that one, just go by Valery solution.
If you are new to DE, and want to get in it seriously, one of the best book is:
Mathematics of Physics and Modern Engineering
I.S. SOKOLNIKOFF & R.M. REDHEFFER
I'm using the 2nd edition (1966).
Whatever Mathcad can or will do for you, must be founded. You could also purchase the Valery book about DE and Mathcad (Springer Verlag).
jmG
>Hello,
>
>I am new with differential
>equations, and need to know
>how to solve a simple one:
>
>EI*y''(x) = M(x)
>
>M(x) = w*x/2
>
>Initial conditions:
>
>x=0, y(0) = 0
>
>x= L/2 y'(L/2) = 0
>
>Thank you,
>Johan
________________________
For that one, just go by Valery solution.
If you are new to DE, and want to get in it seriously, one of the best book is:
Mathematics of Physics and Modern Engineering
I.S. SOKOLNIKOFF & R.M. REDHEFFER
I'm using the 2nd edition (1966).
Whatever Mathcad can or will do for you, must be founded. You could also purchase the Valery book about DE and Mathcad (Springer Verlag).
jmG
Jan 11, 2010
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Hello,
Thank you very much for your answers. I'm tryng to use the Odesolve, and I have an error (the command is in red) and a message telling me:
No "Given" found to open this solve block.
I also would like to know how to solve this simple symbolic equation not using numbers. I am using MathCad 14.
Thank you,
Johan
Thank you very much for your answers. I'm tryng to use the Odesolve, and I have an error (the command is in red) and a message telling me:
No "Given" found to open this solve block.
I also would like to know how to solve this simple symbolic equation not using numbers. I am using MathCad 14.
Thank you,
Johan
Jan 11, 2010
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Jan 11, 2010
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On 1/11/2010 10:06:15 AM, johanpg wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Thank you very much for your
>answers. I'm tryng to use the
>Odesolve, and I have an error
>(the command is in red) and a
>message telling me:
>
>No "Given" found to open this
>solve block.
The error is exactly what it says. After the assignments of EI, L and w type the keyword "Given". Perhaps you should look up solve blocks in the help.
>I also would like to know how
>to solve this simple symbolic
>equation not using numbers. I
>am using MathCad 14.
Mathcad does not do symbolic solutions of ODEs.
Richard
>Hello,
>
>Thank you very much for your
>answers. I'm tryng to use the
>Odesolve, and I have an error
>(the command is in red) and a
>message telling me:
>
>No "Given" found to open this
>solve block.
The error is exactly what it says. After the assignments of EI, L and w type the keyword "Given". Perhaps you should look up solve blocks in the help.
>I also would like to know how
>to solve this simple symbolic
>equation not using numbers. I
>am using MathCad 14.
Mathcad does not do symbolic solutions of ODEs.
Richard
Jan 11, 2010
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Jan 12, 2010
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Thank you Alvaro, your answer is what I was looking for
Muchas gracias!!!
Johan
Muchas gracias!!!
Johan
Jan 16, 2010
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Jan 16, 2010
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Hello Alvaro,
Now I am dealing with the Galerkin Method.
I need to manipulate a 4 order differential equation to introduce (2) natural boundary conditions and obtain a low order differential equation.
I need help in How can I manipulate the 4 order differential equation to obtain a low order diferential equation.
See attached file.
Thank you,
Johan
Now I am dealing with the Galerkin Method.
I need to manipulate a 4 order differential equation to introduce (2) natural boundary conditions and obtain a low order differential equation.
I need help in How can I manipulate the 4 order differential equation to obtain a low order diferential equation.
See attached file.
Thank you,
Johan
Jan 16, 2010
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Jan 16, 2010
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On 1/16/2010 2:28:14 PM, johanpg wrote:
>Hello Alvaro,
>
>Now I am dealing with the
>Galerkin Method.
>
>I need to manipulate a 4 order
>differential equation to
>introduce (2) natural boundary
>conditions and obtain a low
>order differential equation.
>
>I need help in How can I
>manipulate the 4 order
>differential equation to
>obtain a low order differential
>equation.
>
>See attached file.
>
>Thank you,
>Johan
_________________________
For "lower order", that's how RK works.
For your work sheet, the result from the first integration, you could collocate into a Cheby polynomial. As well as for the 2nd integrator. The idea of collocation is a polynomial result formula, that enables export to low level software. By inspection, your procedure looks OK.
jmG
>Hello Alvaro,
>
>Now I am dealing with the
>Galerkin Method.
>
>I need to manipulate a 4 order
>differential equation to
>introduce (2) natural boundary
>conditions and obtain a low
>order differential equation.
>
>I need help in How can I
>manipulate the 4 order
>differential equation to
>obtain a low order differential
>equation.
>
>See attached file.
>
>Thank you,
>Johan
_________________________
For "lower order", that's how RK works.
For your work sheet, the result from the first integration, you could collocate into a Cheby polynomial. As well as for the 2nd integrator. The idea of collocation is a polynomial result formula, that enables export to low level software. By inspection, your procedure looks OK.
jmG
Jan 16, 2010
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Jan 16, 2010
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... back to Galerkin, here is a work sheet in finite differences.
jmG
jmG
Jan 17, 2010
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Jan 17, 2010
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Also don't forget the Wavelet Galerkin methods as an
option - a variation of multi-grid.
It's an area I need to be interested in but haven't
got there yet (still at the collating phase 😉
Philip Oakley
option - a variation of multi-grid.
It's an area I need to be interested in but haven't
got there yet (still at the collating phase 😉
Philip Oakley
Jan 11, 2010
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On 1/11/2010 11:06:34 AM, rijackson wrote:
...
>Mathcad does not do symbolic solutions of ODEs.
>
>Richard
_____________________
Mathcad 11.2a does all the symbolic I have published.
Do you mean 14 does not understand my Laplace solvers ?
jmG
...
>Mathcad does not do symbolic solutions of ODEs.
>
>Richard
_____________________
Mathcad 11.2a does all the symbolic I have published.
Do you mean 14 does not understand my Laplace solvers ?
jmG
Jan 12, 2010
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Jan 12, 2010
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I meant what I said. I did not say it could not be done in Mathcad, in at least some cases, if you know what to do and lead it through all the steps. I said Mathcad couldn't do it.
Richard
Richard
Jan 12, 2010
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On 1/12/2010 3:59:30 PM, rijackson wrote:
>I meant what I said. I did not
>say it could not be done in
>Mathcad, in at least some
>cases, if you know what to do
>and lead it through all the
>steps. I said Mathcad couldn't
>do it.
>
>Richard
_______________________________
A pity if Mathcad 14 does not run this work sheet.
We have lot more symbolic DE solvers that these two.
jmG
>I meant what I said. I did not
>say it could not be done in
>Mathcad, in at least some
>cases, if you know what to do
>and lead it through all the
>steps. I said Mathcad couldn't
>do it.
>
>Richard
_______________________________
A pity if Mathcad 14 does not run this work sheet.
We have lot more symbolic DE solvers that these two.
jmG