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Please help - need to plot a function

uclphd
1-Newbie

Please help - need to plot a function

Hi, attached are two models - Model function A and B. Each model function consists of parts that i am superimposing with given boundary conditions. However, when i plot each function i don't believe it is plotting the mathematical function for either Model A or Model B. I attach, if anyone can please help me to plot the functions correctly would be much appreciated (it's possible that my actual functions are not written correctly in matchcad). Thank you.

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Hi Stuart, I don't think there is any need to divide by N. The plot you provide doesn't seem to connect each bounded portion of the curve from it's end point - however it does provide each individual portion/bound correctly. I have sketched next to your curve what i'd expect - does this seem reasonable with the functions i have provided? Thanks , OmarFunction_model_B_02.jpg

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Is it a beam?

Send please the picture of your beam!

It is a Beam, however the problem is related to the mathematical function regardless of the structure. Thanks.

You have used <= at both ends of your length booleans; this means that you will be counting the end points twice. You need to change one of the limits to < rather than <=.

Stuart

Hi stuart. Thanks for your suggestion but when i change the booleans as you suggest it makes no difference to what is being plotted. can you send an example of what you did? perhaps i'm missing something. Thanks

Sure, see attached, Omar. Out of interest, why do you think your implementation looks wrong? What do you expect?

Stuart

Hi Stuart, thanks for that - Model A looks correct in terms of what i'd expect the curve to look like (it's basically the first 2 bounds of Model B)

However Model B should look like the curve attached. The 3rd bound (where the function is modelled by a cubic) in your model drops, however should start and curve upwards from the end point of the second bound. If you see the attached curve it may make more sense. Thanks, Omar

Thanks, OmarFunction_model_B.jpg

uclphd
1-Newbie
(To:uclphd)

sorry curve up from the end of the third bound. Thanks, Omar

uclphd
1-Newbie
(To:uclphd)

Just to note that the curve attached does not include the second bound in my function B - really just interested in getting the cubic portion within the prescribed bound to start in the right place.

wayne
3-Visitor
(To:uclphd)

Omar,
Do you want to add terms as you go along?

tmp13.gif

uclphd
1-Newbie
(To:wayne)

Hi Wayne, i'm not sure that this is correct. See my post below. Thanks, Omar

AndyWesterman
4-Participant
(To:uclphd)

Hello Omar,

I think that you need to look at the function definitions again, as defined there have to be discontinuities at each transition.

I have modified the Xe.bp equation to show how it can be changed but not knowing the physical realities of your system it is difficult to know if this is justifiable or not.

Regards

Andy

Hi Andy, many thanks you're right i'm going to look at the functions again. Best, Omar

StuartBruff
23-Emerald II
(To:uclphd)

Omar Al-Omar wrote:

Just to note that the curve attached does not include the second bound in my function B - really just interested in getting the cubic portion within the prescribed bound to start in the right place.

Hi Omar,

As far as I can tell, the cubic portion does start in the right place ... but you need to change the drawing units to make sense of it; your grid is too coarse. Do you really mean to divide the R functions by kN (you divide by N in the function definition)?

Stuart

Hi Stuart, I don't think there is any need to divide by N. The plot you provide doesn't seem to connect each bounded portion of the curve from it's end point - however it does provide each individual portion/bound correctly. I have sketched next to your curve what i'd expect - does this seem reasonable with the functions i have provided? Thanks , OmarFunction_model_B_02.jpg

Omar Al-Omar wrote:

Hi Stuart, I don't think there is any need to divide by N. The plot you provide doesn't seem to connect each bounded portion of the curve from it's end point - however it does provide each individual portion/bound correctly. I have sketched next to your curve what i'd expect - does this seem reasonable with the functions i have provided? Thanks , Omar

Unfortunately, I don't know sufficient about the problem to comment on "reasonableness", Omar. I think the equations are now displaying what's implemented and it isn't necessarily unreasonable (from my limited Wiki-gained knowledge) to see some discontinuties (but perhaps not as many as you see). Could you post the actual equations (or reference to a source) and check the values? If you take each equation separately, then the end of one and the beginning of the next should give near enough the same value if there are to be no discontinuities.

Stuart

Thanks Stuart, appreciate all your help on this problem. As a function, you're right it is displaying what's programmed. Thanks for introducing me to the programming approach in Mathcad. Best, Omar

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