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This Value Must be A Real Number When Plotting Functions

AS_10562569
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This Value Must be A Real Number When Plotting Functions

I am working on a simple harmonics lab where I need to produce four graphs. I am attempting to graph position as a function of time, acceleration as a function of time, velocity as a function of time, and total energy as a function of time. I have inputted the formulas into Mathcad, as well as inserted the plots.

 

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When attempting to plot the functions, Mathcad produces an error stating that the value on the x-axis must be a real number. (The error is on all four plots)  

 

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I have attempted to fix the error by changing the values for t, switching the x and y axis, using T and solving T/20 and 5*T and then inputting those values in for t, as well as working with a few different tutors, but all attempts have not corrected the issue. 

 

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  

 

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If possible always attach the worksheet, not just a picture showing part of it

 

Chances are that you did not define "M" which you use in the plot expression. Doing so would throw exact the very same error message shown in your picture.

Maybe you intended to use "mass'" instead of "M".

 

EDIT: Terry's reply was not shown when I started mine.
IMHO the range t is NOT the problem. There should be no need to turn it into a vector as suggested by Terry even though it would do no harm in case of your functions (they would all be vectorized implicitely automatically as far as I see).
Best guess still is that you wanted to use "mass'" and not "M" when you call the function "Y" in your plot.

 

And, yes, the error message sure is misleading, not helpful and flags the wrong position. We may call this a bug in Prime.
Flagging the "M" in the function call with a "Variable is not defined" message would be the correct way to handle this problem.

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Hi can you upload your worksheet.

The problem is "t" is a range variable not a real.

It may be as simple as adding an equal sign after definition of t

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I notice M is not defined.

Cheers

Terry

Hi,

Putting an equal sign after definition of "t" turns it into a real column vector with units.

Energy equation has terms t^2 that will perplex Prime as squaring two column vectors is not possible.

It is required to define element by element calculation by vectorizing either in the definition of the energy function or on the graph.

Cheers

Terry

 

If possible always attach the worksheet, not just a picture showing part of it

 

Chances are that you did not define "M" which you use in the plot expression. Doing so would throw exact the very same error message shown in your picture.

Maybe you intended to use "mass'" instead of "M".

 

EDIT: Terry's reply was not shown when I started mine.
IMHO the range t is NOT the problem. There should be no need to turn it into a vector as suggested by Terry even though it would do no harm in case of your functions (they would all be vectorized implicitely automatically as far as I see).
Best guess still is that you wanted to use "mass'" and not "M" when you call the function "Y" in your plot.

 

And, yes, the error message sure is misleading, not helpful and flags the wrong position. We may call this a bug in Prime.
Flagging the "M" in the function call with a "Variable is not defined" message would be the correct way to handle this problem.

AS_10562569
4-Participant
(To:Werner_E)

Changing mass' to M solved the issue. I also have another question: tau is intended to produce a symbol (e.x. a diamond) on each plot at its defined position, (4 sec), and the symbol is also supposed to change each time the value for tau is changed. How would I add this to each plot? I have also attached the full worksheet. The problem in question is problem two, problem one is a separate problem.   

Looking for something like this?

Werner_E_0-1679804198632.png

You may also make it look like this by using the stem plot and adding horizontal and vertical lines

Werner_E_1-1679804588240.png

 

 

AS_10562569
4-Participant
(To:Werner_E)

The top graph is what is being looked for. I added the second trace to each graph, but the only difference is my plot has a row of diamonds instead of one singular diamond. 


@AS_10562569 wrote:

The top graph is what is being looked for. I added the second trace to each graph, but the only difference is my plot has a row of diamonds instead of one singular diamond. 


Can't guess what the cause may be without seeing the sheet

AS_10562569
4-Participant
(To:Werner_E)

Here is the sheet

Look cloesely at my posted sheet or the posted screenshot.

You have to use V(tau,...) for the second trace and NOT V(t,....)

Werner_E_2-1679883151950.png

 

EDIT: In the plots where you added the vertical and horizontal markers for the amplitude values - you should not use absolute numbers here! If you look at my sheet (second plot) you see that I use "tau/s" in the placeholder for the vertical marker. If the focus is off, you see the value nut if you click on the marker you see the expression.

So for instance in the pot of function A(...) you should place T/(2 s) in the placeholder for the vertical marker and y.o*k/M*s^2/m in the placeholder for the horizontal line. That way the plot changes the correct way if you change some of he input values.

Werner_E_0-1679882992726.png    Werner_E_1-1679883028992.png

 

 

BTW, its a pity that we cannot use units here but have to make unitless scalars by dividing by the appropriate unit.

AS_10562569
4-Participant
(To:Werner_E)

Got it! I will fix the markers. Thank you for the help! 

Hi,

The variable used for the plot marker should not have units only a value

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Highlight the plot,

Go to menu Plots | Markers | Add Vertical Marker, 

Marker is placed at right end of axis with that end of axis value. 

Delete value and put in tau symbol.

marker will snap to tau value and will show tau value not tau symbol.

Change tau value in equation and markers will move.

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The help on this is excellent

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Cheers

Terry

ttokoro
20-Turquoise
(To:AS_10562569)

Put tau/s instead of tau at the place of 4 of the plot.

 

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