Multiple State View in one drawing.

[TedOtto]

I need to create an assembly drawing of an assembly showing two different views of it in different states. There are componets in the assemlby which have two different positions. Theyare controled using a relation in a program. The mate offset value for the component constraint just has two different values, depending on which state it is regenerated in.

How would be the best way to get a view of each state in my drawing?

My first thought was to just double up on the componts that have different positions. Assemble them in both states and put them on seperate layers so they can be shown or hidden in the two views in the drawing. But I'm wondering if there is a better way. Anyone else create drawings like this with two different states like this? How do you do it?

Any thoughts or suggestions would be great, Thanks!

Ted

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[mlocascio]

Doesn't Pro/Process for assembly address some of this problem? Guys?



Michael P. Locascio

[MikeFoster]

We use assembly flexibility for this:

Create a dummy assembly and assemble the primary assembly into it. In the dummy assembly make the primary assembly flexible with the varied item being the offset dimension.

Create a drawing in which the primary assembly is the main model associated with the drawing and create the views for the default state of the primary assembly. Add the dummy assembly model to the drawing and with this model active create views for the other state.

Regards,

Mike Foster
ATK

[vloos]

You could just place both components in the assembly then in the drawing
create your two views then do 'View' 'Drawing Display' 'Component
Display' 'Blank' 'Picked View' then pick on the offending component. It
will be blanked only in that view.

Likewise do the other view state.



If you use a parametric BOM this could be a problem, though. You would
have to exclude one of the components to get the right quantity.



Vinson A. Loos

[mlocascio]

Vinson Loos,



That's a good try. Maybe that will work if there are not too many components
to blank out. I would not recommend that method because not everyone is
going to be able to follow which components are blanked out. Plus if you
have to fix that view at any time in the future it "may" be a real PITA.



I suggest that you take one of 2 different approaches. 1) You can create
simplified reps to show the configuration in question. Or 2) you can layer
these components in and out for their respective views. This is a lot of
work too.



I believe that there is a better way yet though. Pro/Process for Assembly
does what you asking.



Michael P. Locascio

[JohnDugan]

Hiding parts in the drawing mode only impacts the one view being worked on and changes in other views almost always get missed. We have found that the up front work to use simplified reps, and combined states pays off during initial drawing creation as well as when pieces are changed in our assemblies. I have attached a PDF outlining our process.

[kdemont]

I have used family table instances to do this.
By just blanking components on drawings, you could get bad mass properties
dataif a component is assembled twice into the assembly.



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[mganzer]

The easiest way I have found to do this is to place the "moving" component with mechanism constraints. Let it slide in the direction of motion. Create mechanism snapshots of the assembly with the component in both places and make them available for use on the drawing. This way you have no states, instances or any other overhead. My rule of thum has alway been:

If it is one deliverable thing but can move = Mechanisms

It can be serveral different deliverable things = Family table

If I want to simplify display of one deliverable thing = Simplified Reps

[llie]

All,

Could you please reply back to me if you are using Pro/E WF5 and Intralink
3.4 M060, M062 or M070?

Thank you in advanced





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