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February 12, 2024
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Creo Flow Analysis - Simulate Rate of Increase in Pressure on a Piston

  • February 12, 2024
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I am using PTC Creo 7.0 and want to analyse the behaviour of pressure in a braking system. I was thinking to use a simplified model consisting of a length of brake line (4.8mm bore) connected to a piston inside a cylinder. (35mm diameter with 0.5mm stroke)

I would then introduce restrictions in the brake line and analyse the effect on pressure build up behind the piston.

 

Does anyone have experience with a model similar to this?

 

As a starting point, I have created a transient flow analysis of a simple brake line with a restriction, but without the piston element: the brake line is set with 8000000Pa inlet pressure and 0Pa outlet pressure but this is not yielding the expected results (i.e. a ramp up in pressure from zero, finishing with the outlet pressure equaling the  inlet pressure).

 

This is the result I obtain currently:

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Looks o.k. so far, however if I simulate a number of different restriction diameters, I get this:

 

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I would expect final outlet pressure to equal input pressure once the system reaches equilibrium if I have modelled it correctly - the results make me think my chosen model settings are wrong somewhere.

 

Inlet and Outlet settings are:

Inlet:

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Outlet:

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Any ideas where I might be able to improve this?

 

Thanks very much for any help!

 

 

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    cfdgeek13-Aquamarine
    13-Aquamarine
    August 24, 2024

    Hi this is a very interesting case, creo flow can simulate this. please contact ptc support or Simerics support directly if you want to get help. Basically you need to use moving/sliding mesh to model piston moving and add restriction to your brake line. Thanks

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      ptc-14201335-Regular MemberAuthor
      5-Regular Member
      August 27, 2024

      Thank you @cfdgeek - I think part of my issue was that my license would not allow creation of a moving/sliding mesh. I was trying to come up with a workaround without the need for the moving piston element by specifying appropriate boundary conditions for each end of the tube.

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        cfdgeek13-Aquamarine
        13-Aquamarine
        August 27, 2024

        Got it. In this case, we can use expression to apply a transient boundary condition based on time steps. 

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