cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Modelling a Reef Knot

SOLVED
Highlighted
Level 1

Modelling a Reef Knot

Hello,

I have, unfortunately, a requirement to model a Reef Knot (or Square Knot, as you might know it) again.

In the past, I have made a couple of wiggly curves orthogonal to each other and intersected them and run a VSS along them to create each half loop. A few mirrors and you have a passable looking knot. It takes a lot of tweaking and fiddling to get it looking presentable, though. Then there was the added complication that I was required to model a Slip-Reef Knot - one with a loop on one side that you could pull to undo the knot, a bit like a shoelace.

Is there an equation (or equations) to define such a knot? The nice thing about the equation approach would be that it took less work to make it look good and it would also scale nicely. That way, it would be done once and for all and I wouldn't have to repeat all the tweaking every time.

I'm sure someone out there has sorted this out.

Currently using WF4, M220, but I would imagine the principle applies equally well to any version. Bear in mind that I won't be able to open your solutions created in Creo 2.0, though...

Cheers,

John

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

I made it.

X=.45*cos(t)+.25*cos(-t)-.45*cos(-3*t)

y=.45*sin(t)+.25*sin(-t)-.45*sin(-3*t)

z=0.2*sin(5*t)

11 REPLIES

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

If anyone would have it, it would be http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SquareKnot.html

It doesn't look like anything useful for modeling, though the topology is OK.

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

Fun problem. It should be just a matter of parameterizing the knot and plugging the equations into a datum curve by equation.

That being said, I have no idea how one might go about parameterizing a knot.

The guy who made this website does. He has parametric equations for a granny knot which is similar to a reef knot.

http://paulbourke.net/geometry/knots/

I plugged the following into a datum curve:

x = -22*cos(t) - 128*sin(t) - 44*cos(3*t) - 78*sin(3*t)

y = -10*cos(2*t) - 27*sin(2*t) + 38*cos(4*t) + 46*sin(4*t)

z = 70*cos(3*t) - 40*sin(3*t)

And with a sweep I got this:

granny_knot.png

Maybe you can tweak these equations to form a reef knot. I might work on this later.

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

sqknot.JPG

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

Search for "Instructional Knot Tying Animations (Blender)" and view in wonder.

No doubt it's not trivial work, but still amazing.

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

Amazing, indeed.

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

I made it.

X=.45*cos(t)+.25*cos(-t)-.45*cos(-3*t)

y=.45*sin(t)+.25*sin(-t)-.45*sin(-3*t)

z=0.2*sin(5*t)

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

Whoa, cool!

Done by "curve by equation" I take it?

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

Nice work Matt!

Re: Modelling a Reef Knot

Frank, yes curve by equation.

It's not a big thing, I think I just had more successful google searching.