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The physical meaning of some units

ValeryOchkov
24-Ruby IV

The physical meaning of some units

The physical meaning should be back in the unit of measurement of certain physical quantities.

The examples below. The most striking - a unit of dynamic viscosity. Do you know some others units?

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Thanks, Denis (Денис?)

I understand that dynamic viscosity has unit poise or kg/m/s.

But I do not understand Pa*s. I see in  dynamic viscosity time but I do not see pressure!

I have wrote aboit it in the first chapter of the book Физико-математические этюды с Mathcad и Интернет - Let go to meanings in formulas and units!

Hello Valery,

the definition for this comes from a simple experiment. when you have a (Newtonian) liquid between two parallel plates you can observe that some of the liquid is carried along when moving one plate. The relation of velocity and liquid "resistance" to that motion is expressed as the shearing angle. The resistance itself is measured in units of presssure (N/mm2). Although it is a force parallel to a given surface it has the same physical unit as a force perpendicular to it.

This is quite counter intuitive and I have a hard time explaining this to my collegues from the electrical department.

Raiko

P.S.

Another example might be: bending torque N*m and torsional torque, also in N*m.

LucMeekes
23-Emerald III
(To:ValeryOchkov)

How about the unit of energy: Joule [J=N*m] and the unit of moment (of force) [N*m]?

Where the unit Newton itself is [kg*m/s^2], or maybe better [(kg*m/s)/s].

And to reverse you specific conductivity, specific resistivity is often given in units of [Ohm*mm^2/m].

Luc

LucMeekes написал(а):

How about the unit of energy: Joule [J=N*m]

LucMeekes написал(а):

And to reverse you specific conductivity, specific resistivity is often given in units of [Ohm*mm^2/m].

Luc

See one my Mathcad Web-sheet

Hi Valery,

This book can be of interest to you.

But it is the translation into french of the Russian.

I guess you must know.

Kind regards.

Denis

Denis Jaunin написал(а):

Hi Valery,

This book can be of interest to you.

But it is the translation into french of the Russian.

I guess you must know.

Kind regards.

Denis

Thanks,

See Идельчик-Справочник по гидравличесим сопротивлениям

in English too http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1220/ML12209A041.pdf

It will be good to move this reference book into

Interactive Equations - Knovel

but with modern units

StuartBruff
23-Emerald III
(To:LucMeekes)

LucMeekes wrote:

How about the unit of energy: Joule [J=N*m] and the unit of moment (of force) [N*m]?

Where the unit Newton itself is [kg*m/s^2], or maybe better [(kg*m/s)/s].

And to reverse you specific conductivity, specific resistivity is often given in units of [Ohm*mm^2/m].

Luc

Many of the issues are down to the SI choice of bases and the fact that many readily quantifiable items are dimensionless under the SI.

For example, the unit of moment is indistinguishable from energy because there is no angle base quantity.   The reasons for this are that angle is defined (in the SI and elsewhere) as the ratio of two lengths, and hence has dimension 1 (ie, is dimensionless).   I've written about this before and I believe there are good reasons to treat angle as a base quantity.   Similarly, there are many other objects that could be represented as base quantities, provided that they are defined as such in a System of Quantities (SOQ).  In fact, currency (money) is a good example and is already built into Mathcad's SOQ; other examples, of more direct physical relevance, are particles or bits.

Stuart

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