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Dale_Rosema
23-Emerald III
23-Emerald III
April 18, 2025
Question

Arc Pattern - Chord Length

  • April 18, 2025
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I am looking for a way to make a radial pattern given a horizontal dimension from the circular centerline and a radial dimension from a point on that centerline and the spacing is a chord length.

 

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The first hole is 6" horizontal from the center line.

The beginning of the radius in 16" below the horizontal centerline.

The radial dimension between holes is a chord length of 4".

To complete this I backed into it by calculating the angular spacing given the radius and the chord length. Is there an easier way to pattern this than manually calculating the angle?

3 replies

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
April 18, 2025

'Sup Dale!

 

Should be a way to "math" it using the diameter and perimeter of that diameter, say, as parameters.  I'm swamped or I'd look into it for ya.

19-Tanzanite
April 21, 2025

To be honest, I don't quite get the dimension schema for your pattern; lol, the only thing I think I understand is that the patterned hole centers are 4" apart.

But I was going to suggest that instead of "manual calculation", you create a sketch which computed the necessary axial-pattern angle, such as this:

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for a given radius (R=9.223" in this case), and with the chord spacing of 4", the necessary angle is displayed in the reference dimension of 25.049° - and that reference dimension can be used in the relations that drive the subsequent axial pattern...

 

 

 

Dale_Rosema
23-Emerald III
23-Emerald III
April 21, 2025

Let me break down into a couple of things:

Is  there a way to simply define the location of the first hole. It is a combination of X, Y and R, Θ.

I have a 6" horizontal offset from the vertical centerline. I also have a radial dimension from a point a that same centerline.

Without creating sketch geometry, defining a point and then putting the hole on that point, I could not find a simple way to define the hole location. After setting the horizontal dimension, I would click on the center point and Creo would default to a vertical dimension and not radial. If I chose a radial dimension first, Creo would not let me chose the vertical centerline for a second dimension.

 

The second issue was trying to determine the possibility of defining a pattern by chord length instead of angle. The holes are the same chord length apart, the angle dimension changes as the radius get larger from row to row. Can you define a pattern by chord length?

 

Yes this all can be done by sketches or math, but I am just trying to figure out the possibilities of the software. Why do it the long way if there is a shorter method that could be utilized of which I may not be aware.

23-Emerald III
April 21, 2025

If you sketch out what you want your dimensioning scheme to look like, it might help get a better answer.

I think you are going to have to make it a sketch to get the dimensions you want, but that's based on what I think you are after. I not sure if i am getting lost in the description or not.

On a good note, I think you can get to where you want to be pretty easily with a sketch and then a hole, then pattern

 

Dale_Rosema
23-Emerald III
23-Emerald III
April 21, 2025

It's not that I cannot get it made in Creo. I just have to make a bunch of sketches.

The first question. Can I locate a 2" diameter hole on a surface that is 6" right of center on a 27.4838" radius (sorry, should have edited the dimension to something easy but was quick sketching this out in Draftsight)? From what I was trying over the weekend, I can either go X,Y  or R, Θ, but not X, R. If I put the 6" dimension in, when I try and made the radius dimension (27.4838") it gives me a vertical dimension instead. Which puts the hole slightly above where it is supposed to be.

 

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Once that first hole is established, Can I pattern that hole with a 4" chord length? (I can calculate the degrees given the radius, but if I add a 2nd row of holes at a radius of 31.4838, I have to recalculate the degrees when I would just like to pattern at a chord length.)