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7-Bedrock
Oct 21, 2025 6:41 AM UTC
Question

Creo simulate difference between solid and beam calculation

Hi All,

 

I have a fairly simple question I hope, but for some reason can't figure it out myself.

When I run a simulate analyses on the shaft below I'm reading much higher stress results than what I calculate by hand. But when I run the same analyses on a beam section the results are lower than the hand calculation. For this reason I'm not feeling very confident on the results at the moment.

 

The situation is as followed:

The shaft has fixed displacement contraints on the pink surfaces with all rotational movements "free" and also axial movement free. On both outer ends I have placed a planar contraint to make it "fully contraint".

The load is a radial bearing load on the green section. The situation can be compared to the fin of a bow-shackle. 

BartL_0-1761027822150.png

 

Below the results of this analysis.

BartL_1-1761028149374.png

 

And this is the beam analysis:

BartL_2-1761028468662.png

And the results.

BartL_3-1761028641701.png

 

What am I missing here?

 

Thanks in advance for the help!

17 replies

skunks
19-Tanzanite
Oct 21, 2025 8:33 AM UTC

This problem is not simple at all 😂
No result is correct:
- Analytical calculation and the beam model are not applicable
- The 3D model has singularities and is also incorrect

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BartL7-BedrockAuthor
7-Bedrock
Oct 21, 2025 10:17 AM UTC

For what reason is the beam model not applicable? In my opinion this is exactly where it should be a strong tool.

 

And what is the best practice to solve a simple calculation like this?

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skunks
19-Tanzanite
Oct 21, 2025 11:17 AM UTC

2025-10-21_beams.png

--> Bearing stiffness is decisive; this is a highly nonlinear problem.

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16-Pearl
Oct 22, 2025 5:29 AM UTC

Also one small inconsistency. 
3D model has axial displacement locked from both sides
1D model has axial displacement locked only from right side (according to the image)

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BartL7-BedrockAuthor
7-Bedrock
Oct 22, 2025 6:30 AM UTC

No, the 3D model wasn't locked axial but has planar constraints on both end. It has a 100% symmetrical setup. Why it is reading different results on both ends is a big question for me as well.

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