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7-Bedrock
October 21, 2025
Question

Creo simulate difference between solid and beam calculation

  • October 21, 2025
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Hi All,

 

I have a fairly simple question I hope, but for some reason can't figure it out myself.

When I run a simulate analyses on the shaft below I'm reading much higher stress results than what I calculate by hand. But when I run the same analyses on a beam section the results are lower than the hand calculation. For this reason I'm not feeling very confident on the results at the moment.

 

The situation is as followed:

The shaft has fixed displacement contraints on the pink surfaces with all rotational movements "free" and also axial movement free. On both outer ends I have placed a planar contraint to make it "fully contraint".

The load is a radial bearing load on the green section. The situation can be compared to the fin of a bow-shackle. 

BartL_0-1761027822150.png

 

Below the results of this analysis.

BartL_1-1761028149374.png

 

And this is the beam analysis:

BartL_2-1761028468662.png

And the results.

BartL_3-1761028641701.png

 

What am I missing here?

 

Thanks in advance for the help!

2 replies

19-Tanzanite
October 21, 2025

This problem is not simple at all 😂
No result is correct:
- Analytical calculation and the beam model are not applicable
- The 3D model has singularities and is also incorrect

BartL7-BedrockAuthor
7-Bedrock
October 21, 2025

For what reason is the beam model not applicable? In my opinion this is exactly where it should be a strong tool.

 

And what is the best practice to solve a simple calculation like this?

19-Tanzanite
October 21, 2025

2025-10-21_beams.png

--> Bearing stiffness is decisive; this is a highly nonlinear problem.

16-Pearl
October 22, 2025

Also one small inconsistency. 
3D model has axial displacement locked from both sides
1D model has axial displacement locked only from right side (according to the image)

BartL7-BedrockAuthor
7-Bedrock
October 22, 2025

No, the 3D model wasn't locked axial but has planar constraints on both end. It has a 100% symmetrical setup. Why it is reading different results on both ends is a big question for me as well.