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10-Marble
December 22, 2025
Question

units lb*in x rpm don't work to get hp

  • December 22, 2025
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This should be a simple problem, but the units in MathCAD don't work together...

BB_14100646_0-1766431354010.png125 hp

...but instead I get...

BB_14100646_1-1766431471857.png

Is there a way to make the units work with the units or do I have to bypass all of all of that to put in my values without units?

See attached MathCAD Prime 9.0.0.0

4 replies

23-Emerald V
December 22, 2025

Try using lbf instead of lb.

 

Stuart

 

 

10-Marble
December 22, 2025

...but lbf doesn't get me 125 hp. If I remove the units completely, I get the right answer. That may be how I have to do it.

 

Brent

25-Diamond I
December 22, 2025

Guess you have to use pound force (lbf), not pound (lb).

Werner_E_2-1766434830497.png

 

The age old mass versus weight=force confusion 😉

Werner_E_0-1766434769898.png   Werner_E_1-1766434782910.png

 

EDIT: Just noticed I was too slow - Stuart had beaten me in time.

 

EDIT2: As @rgunwaldsen  correctly notice we don't need to use the (inaccurate) conversion factor 63000 as Prime handles unit conversions itself.
Furthermore in the posted sheet a zero was missing in the definition of T. It should be 15000, not 1500.
See answers below.

 

15-Moonstone
December 22, 2025

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Edit: Once again, Werner know his stuff. Correct conversion is : 

rgunwaldsen_0-1766439989834.png

so 125 is wrong answer.

 

 

25-Diamond I
December 22, 2025

@rgunwaldsen wrote:

 

so 125 is wrong answer.

 


I wouldn't call it wrong, but it is clearly inaccurate, yes,
The factor 63000 actually should be

Werner_E_0-1766440939208.png

And, no, I don't have the slightest idea about the underlying subject matter (otherwise I wouldn't have left the unnecessary and, when using units, incorrect conversion factor in my first answer). But after doing some research online to find out how horsepower is actually defined, it soon became clear how to calculate the correct factor.

This factor is necessary only when using a calculator or software which can't handle units. Fortunately Prime can handle units pretty well.

The factor starts at the definition of 1 horsepower to be 550 pound-feet per seconds

Werner_E_1-1766441098213.png

and converts inches to feet (12), seconds to minutes (60) and frequency(rev. per min) to angular frequency (2 pi). That way we can use torque in pound inches and revolutions per minute, multiply their values and divide by the conversion factor to get the result in horsepower.

Prime knows all these relationships between units and performs the necessary conversions itself when required.

Werner_E_0-1766443586507.png

Therefore, it is unnecessary and counterproductive to specify such conversion factors in Prime.

 

So we simply can use

Werner_E_1-1766443656305.png

And I guess that the more precise 124.95 are close enough to the expected 125 which we get with the inaccurate conversion factor 63000.

 

With a different perspective on the matter:

You sure could strip the units, use the formula as given and add unit hp at the end:

Werner_E_0-1766454496684.png

And now lets have a look if Prime could tell us what the conversion factor actually should be. Let's just collect all the units we used for dividing and add at last:

Werner_E_1-1766454594566.png

Voilà, you see that Prime knows its job and that you don't have to care about conversion factors as long as you use correct units.

And Prime can show you the result in any power unit and you actually don't must have any idea about the used conversion factors.

Werner_E_3-1766455239389.png

 

 

23-Emerald I
December 24, 2025

Yes, 125 is the wrong answer:

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25-Diamond I
December 24, 2025

@Fred_Kohlhepp wrote:

Yes, 125 is the wrong answer:

Fred_Kohlhepp_0-1766582507888.png

 


@Fred_Kohlhepp 

Yes, the sheet sent by @BB_14100646  showed 1500, but the text in the sheet says the tenfold:

"Compute the power, in the unit of horsepower, being transmitted by a shaft if it is developing a torque of 15 000 lb·in and rotating at 525 rpm."


As @BB_14100646 seems to expect a result of 125 hp I assumed that T is really meant to be  15000 lbf and the missing zero would a typo.

Ultimately, however, it is he who must clarify which value is actually intended.

 

Community Manager
December 29, 2025

Hi @BB_14100646,

 

I wanted to see if you got the help you needed.

If so, please mark the appropriate reply as the Accepted Solution. It will help other members who may have the same question.
Of course, if you have more to share on your issue, please pursue the conversation. 

 

Thanks,
Anurag