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colmacpro1-Visitor
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June 10, 2011
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Creo 1.0

  • June 10, 2011
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Anybody tried it yet. I recieved a technical support subscription e-mail notifying me that Creo 1.0 was available for download.


I downloaded and installed it with the new license key.


It looks like the next major release of Pro/ENGINEER not to be referred to as WF6. Looks like a much better implementation of the ribbon over WF5.


I have yet to see a mini toolbar popoup when items are selected in any mode. (part, assembly, drawing or sheetmetal)


I've seen demos that had them. Is there a config.pro option that turns them on?


Joe


ps. it wasn't difficult to find menu manager stuff.


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DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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June 20, 2011

I have an update after playing with Creo 1.0 a bit more.


Although I like the direction PTC is heading with Creo 1.0 and I do understand why you want to keep the same Engine (Granite) that was used on Pro/ENGINEER, I can't for the life of me get over the old code still living in Creo 1.0



I have now found MANY features that are using the Pro/ENGINEER 2001 UI or Code and it's a HUGE turn off. I was expecting something new with Creo 1.0, a fresh start with a new clean and easy to use UI. The more I see the Menu Manager prestent in Creo 1.0 the more let down I am that this is NOT what I was thinking.


I though Creo 1.0 was a complete overhaul of the UI with some major changes that make the software easier to use than anything before it. That's partiually true, but the Pro/ENGINEER Menu Manger is alive and well in Creo 1.0 just like in Wildfire before it.


I am so turned off by this, that I am afraid of letting any of my users touch it or see it because it would shatter their hopes on getting something completely new when it comes to the UI.


I will continue taking Creo 1.0 for a spin and I do like what I am seeing, but the Menu Manager was a reminder of something that was so broken that it's hard for me to swallow it. The Menu Manager MUST DIE if PTC wants to claim that Creo is a uniformed UI across all their apps. It's not Unified in Creo 1.0 so I hope the Menu Manager dies completely in Creo 2.0


Just had to be honest once more with my thoughts on using it.



"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"

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lsrutkowski1-Visitor
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June 21, 2011

I had to opportunity to try out Creo 1.0 at the conference last week for an extended period of time (I attended the after-conferece Wildfire 5 to Creo 1 Update class). This new version looks to be a massive improvement over previous releases. The ribbon UI has been implemented throughout the software, but it is nowhere near as bad as it was in WF5. You are able to select objects and features without having to be in that ribbon tab section...mostly. In drawing mode there are still a few items (tables, for example) that require you to be in the correct tab to select. In addition, may features that were still sitting in a Menu Manager (most of sheetmetal) have been moved to the dashboard. I could go on and on with all of the improvements.


That said, I do caution anyone moving to Creo 1.0 to be wary. Durning the class, we had several different CTDs (crash to desktop). All of these were repeatable and all of the ones that I worked with could be traced back to value entry into dashboard items. In most cases, this was when initially setting up a feature. If you entered a value into a box and did not press [ENTER], the value would not take (box went blank) and the automatic feature regeneration that is present in Creo would try to build with a non-existant value and crash the program. All of the features where this happened were new to the dashboard in Creo 1.0, so I am hoping that they will get some priority and be fixed in the next maintainance release.

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DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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June 21, 2011

I do want to make sure everyone knows that despite finding the Menu Manager in Creo 1.0 and being disappointed about that. I still think Creo 1.0 is great and enjoyable to use. Like Lawrence said, it's a major improvement on both Drawing and Modeling modes, the UI is universal across Drawing, Modeling and even Sketcher.


Lawerence makes a good point about being careful with running Creo 1.0 full time without first testing it for these type of crashes or bugs. I am very happy in the direction PTC is taking and I do belive they have a new vision that we can get exctied about. This is not to say the road will be smooth but at least it's on a road that is going somewhere. 🙂

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DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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June 21, 2011

Wanted to add a quick Youtube video that shows the Menu Manager in Creo 1.0


Some have been asking me if the Menu Manager only comes up when editing old parts and the answer is no. I am only using brand new models in Creo 1.0 during my evaluation/testing. So the Menu Manager is active for new models in Creo 1.0


Here is the video:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlrEA7a9mi0&hd=1



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ptc-1699471-Visitor
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June 21, 2011
Hi all,

We have some cases where we need to convert models from one software to another (like ProE to SW or vice versa). I'm a ProE user who has little experience in SW and saw the feature recognition module of SW during a demo. After importing a model (iges, stp, etc) into SW, it looked like you had to "touch" (like in redefine) the feature you wanted to convert in order to turn it into an actual intelligent feature (If I remember correctly, it was at that point where you could reference other surfaces there by creating a parent child relationship). I tried it with SW2010, and while importing, was asked if I wanted to convert features, but unfortunately I don't have the needed feature recognition module.
I know little about how good the SW feature recognition functionality actually is, and realize this is something many CAD programs are probably trying to move towards with maybe some success. We're on WF2, hoping to move to either 5 or Creo 1 in the near future. Do more recent versions of ProE have anything that resemble feature recognition of imported objects, even if only partially?

Thanks,
Stefan
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A.DelNegro1-Visitor
1-Visitor
June 21, 2011
Apparently whatever it was, was not recognized...


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ptc-1699471-Visitor
1-Visitor
June 21, 2011
Hi all,

Looks like this email went out empty the first time. Second attempt.

We have some cases where we need to convert models from one software to another (like ProE to SW or vice versa). I'm a ProE user who has little experience in SW and saw the feature recognition module of SW during a demo. After importing a model (iges, stp, etc) into SW, it looked like you had to "touch" (like in redefine) the feature you wanted to convert in order to turn it into an actual intelligent feature (If I remember correctly, it was at that point where you could reference other surfaces there by creating a parent child relationship). I tried it with SW2010, and while importing, was asked if I wanted to convert features, but unfortunately I don't have the needed feature recognition module.
I know little about how good the SW feature recognition functionality actually is, and realize this is something many CAD programs are probably trying to move towards with maybe some success. We're on WF2, hoping to move to either 5 or Creo 1 in the near future. Do more recent versions of ProE have anything that resemble feature recognition of imported objects, even if only partially?

Thanks,
Stefan
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mlocascio1-Visitor
1-Visitor
June 22, 2011
That's a good question. I know that Pro/e does a great job of converting DXFs but I am not real sure about Iges

Michael P. Locascio



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bfrandsen10-Marble
10-Marble
June 22, 2011


Hi Stefan,


WF4 has feature recognition as a free add-on download from PTC. In WF5 it is included in the installer.




In Reply to Stefan Mueller:


Hi all,

Looks like this email went out empty the first time. Second attempt.

We have some cases where we need to convert models from one software to another (like ProE to SW or vice versa). I'm a ProE user who has little experience in SW and saw the feature recognition module of SW during a demo. After importing a model (iges, stp, etc) into SW, it looked like you had to "touch" (like in redefine) the feature you wanted to convert in order to turn it into an actual intelligent feature (If I remember correctly, it was at that point where you could reference other surfaces there by creating a parent child relationship). I tried it with SW2010, and while importing, was asked if I wanted to convert features, but unfortunately I don't have the needed feature recognition module.
I know little about how good the SW feature recognition functionality actually is, and realize this is something many CAD programs are probably trying to move towards with maybe some success. We're on WF2, hoping to move to either 5 or Creo 1 in the near future. Do more recent versions of ProE have anything that resemble feature recognition of imported objects, even if only partially?

Thanks,
Stefan




Bjarne Frandsen

(Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 4.0 M170andWindchill 9.1M020 on Windows)

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