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kpedersen1-Visitor
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September 28, 2016
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Why is Creo3 so old-fashioned?

  • September 28, 2016
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Why is Creo3 so old-fashioned?

It reminds me of CAD programs that are 10-12 years old.

Can you install an add-in that can optimize the program? 🙂

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    BenLoosli23-Emerald III
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    September 28, 2016

    We would love to hear your opinion on what YOU think is an up-to-date CAD program.

    Also, if you think Creo3 is old-fashioned, state WHY you think so. Nothing is gained by making a negatory comment without reasons why!

    If you are new to Creo3, what is your prior CAD experience, if any?

    I have been using CAD for almost 40 years, Applicon, Computervision Cadds4/4X, CATIA V5, Unigraphics 2/UG NX for 20 years, SolidWorks, Pro/Engineer since 2001 and maybe some others along the way.

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      ggolichowski1-Visitor
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      September 30, 2016

      I've used many other cad systems. (>30 years)

      I used ProE back in 20001-2003, it was not user intuitive, when compared to Solidworks, Catia V5, Inventor, and another in-house developed program.

        I'm now using Creo 3.0, and I'm surprised by the lack of new development work on the user interface.  It takes several mouse clicks/holdkey (Ctrl or Alt) to accomplish what can be done in one or two mouse clicks in the others.  The ribbon requires you to make more selections to access a similar command.  I've also found out using the same extra-large assemblies is no better in Creo 3.0 than SolidWorks 2016.  Each has it's own Idiosyncrasies, but the fact that it takes longer (more user inputs) to do an operation in Creo 3.0 than in others, means it is not conducive to doing things fast.  I.M.H.O.

       

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      VladimirN24-Ruby III
      24-Ruby III
      November 2, 2016

      But what a CAD programs for you is new-fashioned? We're all intrigued.

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      kpedersen1-VisitorAuthor
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      November 2, 2016

      We have worked with Creo for a long time.

      We think that everything is better in for example SolidWorks 2016.

      Everything takes a long time in Creo. There is no intuitiveness in Creo. Creo reminds me of SolidWorks 1996 or Windows 95.

      🙂

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      bgruman1-Visitor
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      November 2, 2016

      OK,  I'll throw in my $.02 on this one...

      First I'll say I know my perspective is a little biased.  I've been on Pro/E-Creo for 20 years,  and specializing in complex surface modeling for 16+ of that.  (plastics... vehicle interiors - class A vehicle exteriors - and complex structural castings with multiple interior cores)

      I have recently (3 months) taken on a new client that has already committed to SolidWorks.  They want me to do heavy structural weldments and some other things,  but mostly weldments.  So,  I decided this might be a nice change of pace to take on as a side job.   I purchased a license of SW2016 went through all of the training video's and was surprised at how fast I picked up the basics.  Then I tried to actually design something...  I soon found out that the interface is sooooo different from Creo that I was not efficient...  AT ALL...   Things that would take me 20min in Creo were taking me 2 hrs in SW.    Searching through menus to find commands, learning what the command icon's look like, finding where to input information...   do I use the big green check box on the right,  or the little green check box on the left...   How do I know things are fully constrained while in sketcher mode...   It feels like I'm using creo sketcher without intent manager!    Very inefficient and very frustrating for me...

      So,  how did I overcome...   I hired a SolidWorks Guy!

      Now that I have seen SW in action by someone who is actually familiar with the software I will say that I'm pretty impressed with a couple of things,  and not so much with others.  

      On the plus side---  multi-body weldment structures...  building 3D sketches and applying pre-defined structural shapes for beams and channels then merging and trimming the ends to create a complete weldment. Then being able to output a complete cut list from this structure...   WOW!   Way faster than I could have ever done it in Creo.   SW is definitely the right software package for this particular client.

      On the not-so-plus side---  sketcher constraints 2D, and worse in 3D...  Its very easy to throw out a shape and let it float,  but it is very hard to explicitly control your design intent with proper dimension schemes and constraints.  Again,  It feels like Creo sketcher without intent manager...   And as good as my SW guy is, I see him struggle with this every day!  Also,  Complex surface modeling...   its just not there yet.  It reminds me of some of the struggles I faced in Pro/E surface modeling 16 years ago...  There is so much power and flexibility in what I can design now (and still explicitly constrain and control) that SW could not even dream of keeping up.  IMO!

      So, with what I've learned in the last 3 months...

      Is Creo old-fashioned and SW new-fashioned??...  IE:  Is Creo better than SW, or is SW better than Creo?

      My answer:  It depends on what your doing!

      Bernie

      Bernie Gruman

      Owner / Designer / Builder

      www.GrumanCreations.com

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