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Dr.R.D.Charbonn1-Visitor
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Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

  • January 7, 2011
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Hello,

 

I'm new to the Creo "family," so I'll briefly introduce myself as Dr. R.D. Charbonneau A.Ph.D., Q.N.R.A. and go from there. I'm an astrophysicist and an independent researcher who started as a BScME (Mechanical Engineer) and am the original discoverer of the Tachocline in our star (Sol; the Sun) and hold the theory that all stars are basically like this. I have currently generated a model of Sol that spells some serious problems possibly in October this year (temperatures may be in excess of 150 deg F in the Northern Hemisphere for a few weeks.), but I have some concepts for preparing for this I want to express to humanity. I need some good CAD Modeling tools for this and that's why I'm here.

 

My questions:

 

1. If I'm using the CoCreate PE 3.0 as of a few minutes ago, but want to upgrade to a version that will handle more than 60 parts, what will this cost?

 

2. Does the PTC Company have any type of pay-as-u-go plan that will allow someone to make payments via debit card once each month?

 

3. The main reason I am choosing this over ProgeCAD is CoCreate has more ability to create and manipulate solids, i.e. HELICES. Is it possible to create a helix that follows a curved path? By this I mean a coil that is wrapped similar to a Moebus Magnet. If not would it be possible to create a single revolution of the coil then copy it multiple times along a curve and union the entire group into a single entity?

 

4. If I want to use the PE version for a bit and create models with essentially more parts, can I take a group of 10 parts, per se, and union then into a single part, then break them down again for drawing plans?

 

 

Thank you,

 

Dr. C.

 

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Best answer by highway45

Yes, the PE can do the same sizes like the Pro version.

But the PE does not allow any textures. That is part of the rendering module which only is available in the Pro edition.

The PE can do all the technical drawings in the module Annotation (press the 2D button) like the full version.

You can make assembly drawings of the whole podule, you can make assembly drawings of the detailed interieur and you can make drawings of every single part including the dimensions, tolerances and other text. You can draw sections in every direction of assemblies or single parts and you can display isometric views, etc etc (all things of an full CAD can be done in PE Annotation).

But with PE you can not export the 2D drawings as pdf or dxf, only print or plot them. The payed version certainly can export many 2D and 3D formats.

Best wishes !

Matthias

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highway4513-Aquamarine
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January 7, 2011

1. and 2. You can ask the costs and payment conditions at an official reseller or CoCreate partner: http://www.ptc.com/partners/index.htm

3. All functions of the full version are included in the PE version. So you can test the helical problem there.

I can not follow your exercise exactly, it could be worth to explain it a bit more special.

4. Yes, several parts can be united to one part. But it is not easy to separate them again, because they are melted to one volume and the system does not know what they were before. In PE you can not save more than 60 parts, but you can load several files together in one session.

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Picture of Helix:

http://osd.cad.de/bilder/helix.gif

Best regards !

Matthias

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Dr.R.D.Charbonn1-VisitorAuthor
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January 7, 2011

Thank you, Highway45. You did answer the question about the helix. That is exactly what I was referring to.

The question still exists regarding how many parts is "Pro" restricted to, or is it the same as PE 3.0?dodepod5.jpgThis was done on an older machine using Cybermotion 6. This is the type of rendering I'm wanting to make. As my launch post implies, it is possible we are running out of time a bit. I emphasize possibly. I want to have a complete set of plans for similar flood / quake / fire resistant pod habitats like this. The one in focus is for a 150 meter diameter structure that will serve for enclosed farms, hospitals, factories, community habitats, etc.

If I want to make this type of rendering am I barking up the right tree? If it will not do the scenery, I already have tried successfully to export an STL to Blender. The megalithic architectural structures will likely need a lot of parts in the drawings.

I'll continue working through the tutorials and check back here to see what the community thinks.

Thanks again.

Dr. C.

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highway4513-Aquamarine
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January 8, 2011

The "Pro" version does certainly not have any restrictions in number of parts.

You can put as many parts and assemblies in one file.

The only restriction I know is about the size of the models, they can not be greater than 700 meter.

Not in PE, but the "Pro" version offers you a quite good rendering module to create pictures similar to yours.

But this is not very professional and I believe you will be disappointed after some time, specially making pics with water or underwater situations.

So I can not suggest this to you (even without knowing your requirements).

Software like Blender or Cinema4D etc are giving you much more possibilities in making great pictures.

The common way is to create the 3D-model in CAD-software and then transfer it to the rendering software.

Hope to see some other people's opinions here in this thread.

Matthias

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Dr.R.D.Charbonn1-VisitorAuthor
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January 10, 2011

CoCreatRevolveQ1.JPG

This is where I'm at:

The drawing is on the work plane. I want to revolve this 360 deg. As of yet I've been unsuccessful with everything I've tried. You could likely do this in a matter of seconds...

Dr. C.

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highway4513-Aquamarine
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January 13, 2011

First you have to create a construction line to get an axis.

Then (in the pull-menu) clicking at "angular" to define the rotating conditions.

Best regards !

Matthias

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Dr.R.D.Charbonn1-VisitorAuthor
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January 13, 2011

Hi Highway45 (Mathias),

As odd as it may sound, I perused the help forum and found pretty much that suggestion. The results?:

podhull5v.JPGAnd here we have it! This is likely from an STL viewer I used to check the integrity of the 3D file. As time goes on I'll do more with CoCreate as it does some things progeCAD won't, but progeCAD is interested in helping me with the Podules if I do an example and an explanation of the "2011/2012/2013... scenario" that plain ol' people can grasp. The main interest I have in CoCreate is the ability to do a helix as a coil, like you demonstrated. What I wish you folks had is a really aggressive renderer, like Cybermotion. I'll keep toying with CoCreate though. I think I saw where I can set a particular solid object to be transparent. Is that correct? If so, how do I isolate the rendering of one part from another. Using the above Pod design as an example, between the open area on what you would call the second level, is a third level where gardening takes place. Inside that deeper well on the inside, (see the 2D drawing) is area for growing trees. The third level, needs to be glass (actually safety glass) so I need to show the hull as aluminum and other areas as close as possible to their real materials.

Any ideas?

Dr. C.

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