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ECAD pin holes do not import with IDX

BI_6032169
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ECAD pin holes do not import with IDX

I am using Creo Parametric Release 4.0 and DatecodeM140

ECAD part pin holes do not import with IDX baseline. Mounting holes work fine. Is this expected behavior? 

Please see attached Creo > File > Options > ECAD Assembly screenshot. 

Also, see attached 3D representations from ECAD tool (Xpedition Layout VX.2.10) and Creo Parametric.

 

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sacquarone
19-Tanzanite
(To:tbraxton)

Hello @BI_6032169 

 

You're facing here a current limitation related to the IDX format, and unfortunately still apllying to latest versions in production of Creo Parametric (including 8.0). Regarding what happens when IDX files are retrieved in Creo View, version 7.1 improves this for your info. This is documented in article 260644

 

ABove article was originally written for IDX coming from Mentor Graphics, marked as applicable later also for IDX  files coming from Xpedition Layout, but good to know that you're able to deal with mounted holes in your context. Usually, the ecad_log file (generated in working directory after import of the IDX format in Creo) lists this kind of messages, confirming that this import is currentkly not supported:

Hole <XXX> is an embedded hole. Embedded holes are not supported, they are ignored.

 

And then yes, as @tbraxton said, if you choose the IDF format instead, you'll probably avoid the missing pin holes after import process, as long as you set the options we document in our article 183885

 

Regards,

 

Serge

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tbraxton
20-Turquoise
(To:BI_6032169)

If you open the .idx file in a text editor do you see entries for the pin holes? When you export from your ECAD design tool you need to ensure that the pin holes are exported in a manner compatible to the IDX format. Those holes are probably defined as plated thru holes (pth) in the ECAD design. If so, you will need to verify this and export the pth from ECAD to the IDX tool.

 

You can also try to export the PCB via the IDF format and include pth as a test case.

sacquarone
19-Tanzanite
(To:tbraxton)

Hello @BI_6032169 

 

You're facing here a current limitation related to the IDX format, and unfortunately still apllying to latest versions in production of Creo Parametric (including 8.0). Regarding what happens when IDX files are retrieved in Creo View, version 7.1 improves this for your info. This is documented in article 260644

 

ABove article was originally written for IDX coming from Mentor Graphics, marked as applicable later also for IDX  files coming from Xpedition Layout, but good to know that you're able to deal with mounted holes in your context. Usually, the ecad_log file (generated in working directory after import of the IDX format in Creo) lists this kind of messages, confirming that this import is currentkly not supported:

Hole <XXX> is an embedded hole. Embedded holes are not supported, they are ignored.

 

And then yes, as @tbraxton said, if you choose the IDF format instead, you'll probably avoid the missing pin holes after import process, as long as you set the options we document in our article 183885

 

Regards,

 

Serge

Thanks for the reply, @sacquarone. Per article 260644, looks like we'll need to wait for Creo Parametric to catchup. 

Regards,

-Brian

Thanks for the reply, @tbraxton. Yes, the IDX includes pin holes; see below sample:

<foundation:InterStratumFeature id="PINHOLE25" xsi:type="pdm:EDMDInterStratumFeature">
<pdm:ShapeElement>SHAPE72</pdm:ShapeElement>
<pdm:InterStratumFeatureType>PlatedCutout</pdm:InterStratumFeatureType>
<pdm:Stratum>STRATUMMH</pdm:Stratum>
</foundation:InterStratumFeature>
<foundation:Item id="ITEM187" xsi:type="pdm:EDMDItem">
<foundation:Name>PinHole</foundation:Name>
<foundation:Description>Reusable Padstack</foundation:Description>
<pdm:ItemType>single</pdm:ItemType>
<pdm:Identifier xsi:type="foundation:EDMDIdentifier">
<foundation:SystemScope>ECADSYSTEM</foundation:SystemScope>
<foundation:Number>Rnd 1.2-36</foundation:Number>
<foundation:Version>1</foundation:Version>
<foundation:Revision>0</foundation:Revision>
<foundation:Sequence>1</foundation:Sequence>
</pdm:Identifier>
<pdm:PackageName xsi:type="foundation:EDMDName">
<foundation:SystemScope>ECADSYSTEM</foundation:SystemScope>
<foundation:ObjectName>Rnd 1.2</foundation:ObjectName>
</pdm:PackageName>
<pdm:Shape>PINHOLE25</pdm:Shape>
</foundation:Item>

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