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  • August 28, 2018
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Hello;

I'm new into Creo. I have created an assembly structure and some parts with geometry reference(project) from other parts. In Reference viewer it shows the root assembly as a children for the parts which have reference, Why? see attached image/

Can I set the creo options to not to have this logic?

 

Thanks.

BR.

 

 

Best answer by dgschaefer

The parent assy defines the relationship between your source part and the target. That's why it's in the reference chain.  Without it Creo wouldn't know where to put the geometry from the source in the target.

 

The way to avoid this is to use an external copy geometry feature to copy directly from one part to another by aligning coordinate systems instead of using an assy.

 

A more robust way is to use skeleton driven top down design techniques. The skeleton defines shared geometry and that geometry is passed down by copy geometry (still creates an assy reference) or external copy geometry (no assy reference) to the parts.

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StephenW23-Emerald III
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August 28, 2018

You have to be careful what you use for references when you work with parts in an assembly. 

There is an option to eliminate or warn when you are making references to other parts/assemblies.

In the config under file - options configuration editor, set

default_ext_ref_scope and change the setting to NONE

 

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    Beau19981-VisitorAuthor
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    August 28, 2018

    Thanks @StephenW

    Why I should be careful about using these references? what is long or short term issues?

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    dgschaefer21-Topaz IIAnswer
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    August 28, 2018

    The parent assy defines the relationship between your source part and the target. That's why it's in the reference chain.  Without it Creo wouldn't know where to put the geometry from the source in the target.

     

    The way to avoid this is to use an external copy geometry feature to copy directly from one part to another by aligning coordinate systems instead of using an assy.

     

    A more robust way is to use skeleton driven top down design techniques. The skeleton defines shared geometry and that geometry is passed down by copy geometry (still creates an assy reference) or external copy geometry (no assy reference) to the parts.

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      Beau19981-VisitorAuthor
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      August 28, 2018

      @dgschaefer

      Thanks so much.

      Does this Skeleton method solve the issue of external references?

      Where can I find some of these practices about skeleton driven methodology? Any book or reference guide?

      Generally speaking, is it practical to use references from other parts (without defining skeleton env) in complex products?

       

      BR.

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      StephenW23-Emerald III
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      July 31, 2019

      It's a very manual process. At some point when I am comfortable my design is not changing (much) anymore, I usually open up the parts individually and edit the features that have external references. I make reference to either existing part references or the default datums. It's also when I start thinking about how the parts are going to be detailed and I usually get my dimensioning scheme worked out since I typically try to show dimensions.

      We also use modelcheck, so that helps me find external references. 

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