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cmarquardt12-Amethyst
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November 15, 2016
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GD&T text boxes in Creo 3

  • November 15, 2016
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In past versions of Creo/ProE, you have been able to somewhat easily create GD&T datum reference frames in situations where you don't want to use the annotation.  For example, if you are calling out GD&T in the notes of the drawing.

 

In Creo 3, it seems that the old syntax of @["text"@] no longer will box around your "text", and this function has been replaced with a button in the ribbon bar, called "Box".

 

While Creo 3 imports the @[text@] syntax, if you have two right next to eachother, it removes the separation.  Causing a Creo 2 note that was created as described, to lose all the vertical separations between the different areas of the datum reference frame.

 

(Looks like this)

 

The only temporary solution I have found is to add vertical bar characters | for the separators.  Like this:

 

 

Apologies if this has already been covered, I did some searching and could not find anything specifically referencing this problem.  What is everyone else doing to workaround this problem?

 

Creo 3 M080

Best answer by cmarquardt

Okay everyone, hold onto your chairs:

The answer is that there is something going on in the background, which must be tied to certain DTL options, mixed with the version of Creo the drawing was originally created in.  So, while this may not affect many people, if it does you, see below.

Run the following hidden options in the drawing options:

update_drawing = 2202279

update_drawing = 2211176

Or, alternatively, if you are not concerned about the other changes it make make, do as I did and run this option instead of the other two:

update_drawing = all

Once you run that, the "box" text button works exactly how you would want it to, and the old syntax imports it just fine when you edit the note.

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TomD.inPDX17-Peridot
17-Peridot
November 16, 2016

Just one more reason I cannot use Creo 3 for drawings.

They completely blew the annotation editor.

Creo 3 needs a toggle in Config.pro for legacy annotation.

If they don't do something about this, I will have no reason to continue maintenance.

I have Creo 3 M020 loaded.  It does not do the short line and the lines do not disappear.

What I do see is a VERY messy formatting after many attempts at editing a particular piece of text.

For instance, ".010" was parsed into @[{2:.0}{3:10}@]@[@{...

This is JUNK!, plain and simple.

Once you have the text selected, you can open the editor.  Problem is, it is now Notepad.exe!!!  BLUNDER #2

Where is the original text editor and how can I make that the editor for Creo?  Creo has options for many other text editors, why not text!

Every time I look at Creo 3, like I just did, I have to shake my head at the complete utter ... Meh!!!

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rcook1-Visitor
1-Visitor
November 17, 2016

Works for me in Creo 3 M100, but I always shiver when I see manually created GTOLs. Why not create an actual GTOL??? You can call it out wherever you want in the drawing and it is much easier to create and manage.

BOXES.jpg

Thanks,

Roger

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cmarquardt12-AmethystAuthor
12-Amethyst
November 17, 2016

Hey Roger, it worked for me as well the first time I tried it, which made the user asking the question to me annoyed that things always work for me.  But then, after editing it again, the separation went away.  And then I tried it again and it didn't work at all.  And then I tried it again, and some of the vertical lines showed up, but others disappeared.  So, maybe it is a bug specific to M080?  But, the vertical separations are undependable at best.

I think your argument that GTOLS should just be stored in the model is valid in most cases.  But, for people dealing with legacy data where those datum's aren't set up, or have the occasional drawings that don't have an associated model, or "what-have-you" case, it isn't always an option.  And often the ROI just isn't there to instruct people to recreate this information every time they revise a drawing.

In the end, PTC needs to keep the needs of all of its customers in mind when making changes.  Flat out removing this capability is not acceptable- which to be fair I don't think was their intention.  I hope this was just a bug...  I will start a support case on the subject, being it appears it is not a common issue.

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dgallup1-Visitor
1-Visitor
November 13, 2018

That worked for me in Creo 4 M020 but what a stupid thing to have to do!!!!  Totally unintuitive and a bunch of extra clicks.  But's that what I think of ALL ribbon interfaces.  Hopefully in a few more years the idiots at MS will move on to something that's way more efficient and PTC will follow along like an obedient dog.

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cmarquardt12-AmethystAuthorAnswer
12-Amethyst
November 22, 2016

Okay everyone, hold onto your chairs:

The answer is that there is something going on in the background, which must be tied to certain DTL options, mixed with the version of Creo the drawing was originally created in.  So, while this may not affect many people, if it does you, see below.

Run the following hidden options in the drawing options:

update_drawing = 2202279

update_drawing = 2211176

Or, alternatively, if you are not concerned about the other changes it make make, do as I did and run this option instead of the other two:

update_drawing = all

Once you run that, the "box" text button works exactly how you would want it to, and the old syntax imports it just fine when you edit the note.

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