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October 17, 2014
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Windchill SIM and InDesign

  • October 17, 2014
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Dear all,

One of my customer wishes in a first step store his InDesign file in Windchill.

During this first step, we wil put in place the organization, lifecycle and workflow.

In a second step, he wants to use DITA (with Arbortext Editor and Publishing Engine) to manage the content of his documentation.

Who already have an experience with the couple Windchill / InDesign?

Thanks in advance for you feedback.

Best regards

Pascal

Best answer by JeffStevenson

Hi Pascal,

To my knowledge, no plug-in exists between Windchill and InDesign.

InDesign does offer a JavaScript API that may allow for such a plug-in to be created by using Info Engine calls or the WC API. This would be an entirely custom application since the user base for such a tool would be limited.

Regarding moving from InDesign to Arbortext, my company has done some work on building a bridge between InDesign and Arbortext. I'd be happy to discuss your use case with you to see if any value can be added with with bridging InDesign and Arbortext or a plug-in for InDesign and Windchill.

Feel free to private message me and we can setup a call.

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5-Regular Member
October 31, 2014

Hi Pascal,

Sounds like a pretty unique setup, as we haven't had any other clients with this, so I'm not surprised at the lack of response. First step you may want to try is a little testing to make sure that inDesign files are compatible with Editor. Theoretically, the XML should be no problem, I'm more curious about the additional files, such as stylesheets and such.

1-Visitor
October 31, 2014

Hi Pascal,

We have some experience working with InDesign, Arbortext, and Windchill.

I'm not quite clear on what you are trying to achieve. It sounds like you want to store InDesign documents in WC and then publish them through PE? Is this correct? What is the format of the InDesign files? .indd? IDML?

Windchill can store any file type as a Document, but Arbortext won't support .indd files as this is unique to Adobe. If you want to move from InDesgin to Arbortext, IDML will be your best bet, but you'll need to do some specialized processing on the IDML before Arbortext can handle it.

1-Visitor
November 7, 2014

Hi Jeff,,

Thanks for your feedback.

We used to manage XML and SGML document with Arbortext and Windchill.

For this use case, we want to store Indesign files in indd and/or IDMLformat inside Windchill and to use InDesign to edit the document.

We would like to know if somebody has already developped a connector between InDesign and Windchill to make checkin, checkout, link with graphics etc ?

About your idea on moving from InDesign to Arbortext, have you got experience on the specialized processing?

1-Visitor
November 7, 2014

Hi Pascal,

To my knowledge, no plug-in exists between Windchill and InDesign.

InDesign does offer a JavaScript API that may allow for such a plug-in to be created by using Info Engine calls or the WC API. This would be an entirely custom application since the user base for such a tool would be limited.

Regarding moving from InDesign to Arbortext, my company has done some work on building a bridge between InDesign and Arbortext. I'd be happy to discuss your use case with you to see if any value can be added with with bridging InDesign and Arbortext or a plug-in for InDesign and Windchill.

Feel free to private message me and we can setup a call.

5-Regular Member
November 7, 2014

Pascal,

Was the information Jeff provided what you were looking for, or could you elaborate on your business needs perhaps?

1-Visitor
April 27, 2015

Hello everyone,

I have finally managed to find a post related to InDesign and Windchill. My company as InDesign but use it as standalone (eg they copy paste screenshot of the 3D models).

I am in the process of evaluating solutions to improve the management of our Knowledge Work and PLM processes.

Ideally, I would like to move to Windchill (not that I have 8 years experience in implementing in another company) but that I know it will fulfil many of our requirement.

However we use Inventor at the moment (so we also consider PLM360) If we select Windchill, there will be new questions.

Do we keep Inventor or do we move to Creo (Inventor was selected in 2012 and only 6% of our CAD data are in inventor so for me moving to Creo is an option).

The other case I have to made is, InDesign vs Arbotext within Windchill.

While I appreciate Windchill will "digest" any uploaded file, depending on the format we lose all the benefits of integrated format.

I have struggle to find good presentation video about Arbotext vs InDesign. (PTC VAR I contacted do not seem to know much about Arbotext and its competitors). Actually is InDesign a competitive product of Arbotext or Arbotext light years ahead of InDesign.

Any help welcome.

Best regards

1-Visitor
April 27, 2015


I think I am reading your request differently from the others. so here is my interpretation:

1. First you want to store InDesign files in Windchill (this is fine) and then manage versions and use workflow. True there is no direct interface now to automatically work on InDesign from Windchill, but you can check out the file and download. Then you work on it in local mode and then check in the file when you are done. This way you get versioning. I did not read in your note that you wanted to use InDesign with PE. We use this process for Illustrator files. Note on InDesign all files must be in the single file, this process does not support links to outside files, graphics, etc. This is why we do not store InDesign files in the system.

2. Arbortext uses XML to encode text with command that define the data. These commands (tags) are then used to drive styles that are created separately and drive the Arbortext publishing Engine to automatically make up pages without manual layout or intervention. If your pages can be logically defined and are of a consistent design page to page then Arbortext and PE batch composition may be the way to go. We used to use InDesign to manually layout our Instructor led in-house training materials. Once the data was authored in word, it was imported into InDesign and then manually layout and this process took many weeks. Now the material is authored in Arbortext and run though PE and it is done, one pagination run produces the instructor books with both instructor notes and student notes and then a second run, changing the book classification generates the student materials, no manual layout.

I do not know if this answers the question any better than the others, but this is our process and one way to look at the problem.

12-Amethyst
April 27, 2015

Ray,

Just curious. You say it used to take many weeks to produce a set of instructor and student manuals. I'm wondering how long it takes now?

Thanks!

Suzanne