SW is better than PROE I think

I am a Certified SolidWorks Expert and have been using SW for over 11 years. My Pro/E - Creo experieince is only 4 months now, but SW beats Pro/E hands down in top down modeling, part creation and 2D Drawings hands down, in my opinion.

The Customer Service from PTC is much better than SW, but SW is intuitive, user friendly and faster to use.

Must not be if guys like you have to continually reassure yourselves by posting comments like this on a Pro/E Forum. If you like Solid works and it gets the job done for you then use it and leave real CAD to us Pro/E users. If you cant see the advantages of Pro/E then you are not using it to its potential anyway. Buy a box of crayons they are a lot cheaper than Solidworks.

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Number of feature.

Number of Mouse click.

The time to do unitil finish.

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I used to work with SW since 1998-2003 and now working with Pro/E and I got many advantages from this CAD like a name PRo/ENGINEER.

Hey, folks, no need for all the sarcasm. This topic has been discussed many times on this forum, and I'm sure it will raise its cute little head again in the future.

SW has been known since the beginning for "ease-of-use", and, in fact, ProE has adopted many interface ideas and methods from SW over the years. I have my own list of nice interface features from using SW in the past, features I would like to see in Pro.

Just to give you folks who love SW an idea of why so many of us prefer Pro, here are two of my biggies:

1. The math/modeling engine at the foundation of Pro is so much more powerful, capable and reliable. If you get into real Surface modeling and look at all the Advanced feature types like Variable Section Sweeps using trajpar and Graphs, Toroidal Bends, Spinal Bends, various blending techniques, and all the Advanced Assembly, Top-Down design and Programming capabilities, you begin to appreciate this.

2. Once you have done feature-based modeling with rigorous parent-child constraints for awhile, you really begin to appreciate the stability and editability of work created using that logic. Many of us have seen, by contrast, cases where changing something simple in a moderately complex SW assembly causes everything to "blow up" because of the lack of this rigour. For some users this "flexibility" seems like an advantage, but it can sometimes create a real time bomb.

There's more, but that's an overview.

David

BLUE DUNCAN wrote: SW is better than PROE I think http://www.solidworks.com/pages/screencasts/choosesolidworks_all/ChooseSW_MassAssemblies.html

Microsoft Paint is better than SW I think.

It is interesting how people have differing views on CAD software these days. I try to keep my view very objective. Unfortunately I have had to use Solidworks for the last 6 months. I started out with an open mind...over time I have grown to truely like Pro/E over Solidworks. This is not because of preference but because of actual functionality issue with SW.

In fact things have gotten so bad that I have started keeping lists of the problems so that I am not accused of making things up etc. I have a very long list now. I have confirmed most of these things with SW tech support as well. Some issues have work arounds and some do not. Here is a very brief list of why Pro/E is much better for productive engineering the SW.

1. The intent manager is far better in sketching with Pro/E...much faster modeling is the result.

2. The ability to use powerful equations is far better in Pro/E. Yes SW has equations but the editor is a joke and there is no ability to automatically comment out equations that become obsolete etc...unless you manually do it. There are lots of other unfortunate things about the equations if you want a long list later.

3. Top down design is not better in SW...it has not decent layouts. Yes they have something CALLED a layout but it is no where near as powerful as Pro/E. For example a layout sketch is one single sketch...for a large assembly you can imagine how messy this can get. SW has no publish geometry/copy geometry functionality...the reference controls are poor and the list goes on.

4. Large assemblies in SW are a real pain...I have done HUGE assemblies in Pro/E with no problems...(think thousands of parts). Yes SW has its little feather capability but it is no where near as powerful as simplified reps in Pro/E.

5. While this is only one example it is indicative of how poorly thought out functionality is in SW...take an imported engine for example from a vendor...that has only surfaces in it. Can you assign a mass to it in SW? NO YOU CAN'T. You must first create a solid...then you can assign a mass...but can you assign inertial properties to that mass? No you can't SW does not have this functuality. In Pro/E you can assign a mass to a surface...and inertial properties. Yes this is only one example but there are MANY like it.

6. SW is very buggy. Over the last 6 months I have had several SPR's...usually 2 per week. You can't talk to SW directly though about it you have to go through a VAR. PTC tech support win's hands down.

Ok I am tired of typing now so suffice it to say Pro/E is an elegantly thought out tool that is in my estimation much better then SW. Yes there are certain things about SW that I like better, for example simple things like "catapillar welds" in a drawing...but over all Pro/E is a much better package and is certainly what I prefer.

Cheers.

PS. I really like the fact that Pro/E has a config.pro option that when set will not save a part/assembly/drawing etc. unless it has actually been changed...I can't tell you how many times SW thinks something has been changed when it has NOT been changed...then advises you that you should save it...I think if I recall SW blames this on microsoft though

Oh yeah and while we are talking about microsoft...SW stores just about every stinking setting in the registries instead of a config file like Pro/E. This is very unfortunate...it makes it hard for a system CAD admin to deploy company settings to each user...yes they have some tools for this but they are lacking. Oh and I can't tell you how many times the SW registries have become corrupted and I have been directed by tech support to delete them! In the 13 years that I have used Pro/E I have NEVER had the config.pro, config.sup, or the drawing config get corrupted...

I think we should all get together one Warm evening at PTC User in Vegas and have some Cold Beers in the Rose Garden!

BTW in the 90's they launched a color etch a-sketch...