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amcgough14-Alexandrite
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October 2, 2013
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PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

  • October 2, 2013
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PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 is now availble for download - either as a CD Image or as a web installer. Active Global Support customers can download the CD image from this location:

https://www.ptc.com/appserver/auth/it/esd/product.jsp?prodFamily=MCD

You can follow the attached instructions to update your license file.

If you don't have a current license and want to try out PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 free for 30 days and then with a reduced functionality set for as long as you like, you can download Express by clicking this link:

http://free-dl.ptc.com/install/pim_installmgr_mathcad.exe

PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 includes new features sych as Templates, Math Formatting, Math in Text, the Global Definiiton operator, Custom Function support and many more upgrades. We're always inetrested in feedback so please do upgrade your existing installation or try the product for free and let us know what you think!

Andy McGough

Product Manager - Mathcad.

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    Werner_E25-Diamond I
    25-Diamond I
    October 2, 2013

    Thanks.

    Any reason Prime 2 M010 isn't available anymore?

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    24-Ruby III
    VladimirN24-Ruby III
    24-Ruby III
    October 3, 2013

    Werner Exinger wrote:

    ... Any reason Prime 2 M010 isn't available anymore?...

    It's ok with this service release.

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    Werner_E25-Diamond I
    25-Diamond I
    October 3, 2013

    Yes, its OK now. It was temporarily not available but was fixed in the meantime.

    See http://communities.ptc.com/message/222192#222192

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    arbiter0071-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    October 2, 2013

    Never noticed this before, but All Functions listing is only psuedo-alphabetical, e.g., "Solving" is inserted between "Differential Equations" and "Expression Type." Likewise, "Vector and Matrix" and "String" are not in alphabetical order.

    I would suggest that Find be included as part of the free functions, since its utility is much higher than Root, and is more likely to entice people to keep using Mathcad.

    TTFN

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    spaco1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    October 2, 2013

    3 versions with the same unfinished and ugly GUI !?!

    PTC, you don't get it. Improve the GUI quality !!! The GUI can be changed in 2 weeks. Is it so hard to do?

    We should wait another year?

    More Problems:

    No page width view.

    No One page view.

    No Two pages view.

    No zoom with Ctrl+wheel mouse.

    No vector graphic file support (wmf, emf ...)

    After you select a region the cursor should be turned into Move on entire region, not only on the border, because is very hard to select the brder.

    an so......

    I can write several pages but will be for nothing. It seems that PTC should have first an ear examination.

    In the end, using Prime with this GUI is like typing using boxing gloves.

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      Werner_E25-Diamond I
      25-Diamond I
      October 2, 2013

      In the end, using Prime with this GUI is like typing using boxing gloves.

      I like this comparison , and unfortunately it is very true

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      arbiter0071-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      October 2, 2013

      You guys couldn't be bothered to make MP3 files readable by MP2? This will be yet another reason for people to abandon Mathcad altogether.

      All the blather about Mathcad collaboration and sharing of resources that PTC touts just flew out the window.

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      Werner_E25-Diamond I
      25-Diamond I
      October 2, 2013

      Mo Det wrote:

      You guys couldn't be bothered to make MP3 files readable by MP2? This will be yet another reason for people to abandon Mathcad altogether.

      I agree. Usually when a company provides materials for their (future and existing) customers its an important goal to make it available to a as broad audience as possible. In Mathcad terms this always meant save it in MC11 format if ever possible and it went without saying that newer version of the program would be able to read older formats without hassle and also would be able to save in older formats. Not so PTC and Prime. At the time they are flooding the community with a myriad of documents, most of them will only be read by P3.

      A lot of those worksheets seem to part of a contiguous series but they post them singly one after the other - bad!

      Furthermore a lot of those worksheets consist of just a single function - noboday coming to the idea to summarize them in one single file? That all looks like a ridiculous sham of quantity that is simply not there.

      Its also questionable if providing those files in a dynamic environment like a discussion forum is really better than on a static webspace. But I understand that PTCs website is a real nightmare to navigate and so is not that much frequented.


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      sbaty1-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      October 2, 2013

      Prime 3.0 FAQ # 7 Says "easily" convert older worksheets. Requiring that another version be installed alongside should forbid the use of the word "easily".

      Quote:

      7. Can I use my old PTC Mathcad worksheets with PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0?

      Yes. You can easily convert worksheets from any previous version of PTC Mathcad into PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0. Differences in files will be listed in the conversion process and in the converted file for the user’s review. A detailed Migration Guide is included with the product.

      8. Can I use PTC Mathcad 15.0 and PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 with the same license file?

      Yes. When you install PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0, you can install PTC Mathcad 15.0 and point it to your PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 license. The converter requires PTC Mathcad 15.0 to be installed so that you can convert any worksheets from past versions of PTC Mathcad.

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      Werner_E25-Diamond I
      25-Diamond I
      October 2, 2013

      I read in advance that Prime 3 would make it much easier to access files in older formats - if we still can't do it the normal way using the file open menu it seems that was a lie.

      Some PTC employees also promised here that P3 would retrofit the missing support for useful cut and paste. Now I just read here some posts earlier that still no vector graphics would be supported. I hardly can believe that.

      Does anyone can explain whats going on her? Whats wrong with those people at PTC?

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        24-Ruby III
        VladimirN24-Ruby III
        24-Ruby III
        October 3, 2013

        PDF "Read This First" and "What's New (Enhancement Details)" guide for new PTC's Mathcad Prime 3.0 release can be found in the attachment.

        Mathcad+Prime+3.0+Logo.jpg

        Microsoft Hotfix's for Prime 3.0:

        http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2652531 (Microsoft Hotfix for Fonts).

        http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2588096 (Microsoft Hotfix for Memory and Performance Issues).

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        Werner_E25-Diamond I
        25-Diamond I
        October 3, 2013

        VladimirN. wrote:

        PDF "Read This First" and "What's New (Enhancement Details)" guide for new PTC's Mathcad Prime 3.0 release can be found in the attachment.

        Thanks, but aren't these file included in the P3 installation anyway?

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        24-Ruby IV
        ValeryOchkov24-Ruby IV
        24-Ruby IV
        October 3, 2013

        Werner Exinger wrote:

        VladimirN. wrote:

        PDF "Read This First" and "What's New (Enhancement Details)" guide for new PTC's Mathcad Prime 3.0 release can be found in the attachment.

        Thanks, but aren't these file included in the P3 installation anyway?

        help.png

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        RickMason1-Visitor
        1-Visitor
        October 7, 2013

        Nearly 3 years later and Prime 3.0 still cannot convert my v15 worksheets properly. This even after I provided PTC with a very simple example of one of my worksheets that Prime 2.0 could not convert properly. There are still several missing capabilities! So I still CANNOT use Prime! I have many, many v15 worksheets that need to be converted!

        In the mean time, there has been no functional advancement of v15. PTC MUST stop charging for support for v15 until Prime does what it is finally supposed to do and that is to support ALL of v15 functionality in some way that does require a re-write of a worksheet. The current PTC support strategy for v15 is absolute THEFT in my opinion!

        Very, very frustrated.

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          asgomez1-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          October 7, 2013

          Of course I agree with all that has been said about the (lack of) quality of MP# versions... All of a sudden, and year after year, we longtime users (since 1992 in my case) have been deprived of the friendly and simple, but powerful, calculation platform we were accustomed to. And that's a shame since users like myself will never ever spend a single penny on a software like this.

          But I would like to point out something that has been omitted in this forum (or at least I haven't seen it yet) and is about "loading time"... Let me point this out: I run an i7 Dell Precision laptop with a FirePro Video card, a SSD and 32 GB RAM. That's a nice piece of hardware to run from any Autodesk soft to Accelrys Materials Studio to make some serious movie renders... Almost anything here (FLUENT calculations, ANSYS, etc...) is just a breeze... Needless to say that high demanding floating points operations like Quantum calculations and self consistent routines are very competitive.

          But wait, starting MP2 here is more than just a matter of sit and wait... Debugging old workbooks takes some time and graphing complex functions may not render quite niftly... Mathcad 15, however, does the things according to what is expected... maybe without the (silly and useless) ribbon, maybe more "orthodox", whatever you put it, but it does the job.

          So, not only MP# are bags full of garbage from an "interface point of view", or from a "portability POV", or from a "backwards compatibility POV", they are ALSO bags full of garbage from a "loading time POV" and from an "economy of resources POV".

          Unlike a colleague professor that encourages his students to try and buy the software, I just advice them to not to do so. The free WolframAlpha platform, Mathematica with a more competitive price, Maple and even tons of free open source GNU software do a lot more without such a lack of economy of resources.

          I think, PTC staff, that whatever you do with Mathcad, if it excludes M15 compatibility and continuity (M16, for instance), it will be destined forever to be forgotten and, definitely, not recommended. In my case, I have been a freelance (non-profit) anti-PTCMathcad activist since the Prime generation came to surface.

          Long live M15, the last of the mohicans. The rest is pure trash disguised with a (useless and ugly) ribbon.

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          24-Ruby IV
          ValeryOchkov24-Ruby IV
          24-Ruby IV
          October 8, 2013

          Amaury Suárez-Gómez wrote:

          Long live M15, the last of the mohicans. The rest is pure trash disguised with a (useless and ugly) ribbon.

          Long live USSR - Да здравствует СССР!

          I often see such a slogan on the streets.

          But most of my students prefer the new "ugly" Russia.

          It was impossible to develop old country for new time and old package for new computers.

          But I do not like new Russia too..

          The place is best of all where we haven't been at all.

          The grass is always geener on the other side of the fence

          Some strange analogy but not why?

          PS

          Long live M16 and Kalashnikov!

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          asgomez1-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          October 8, 2013

          Dear Ochkov (I admit being a reader of your books, so all my respects to you and your work)

          I am a Cuban born fellow who grew up watching a lot of USSR-made cartoons and TV series and movies in the 80's... we used to be "sister nations", remember that? This documentary, sadly untranslated into english or russian, gives a fair account of that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ArhjKLucw

          Currently I am a mexican citizen, 10 years living here now. And you may guess why I flew the island...

          Maybe this "current politics" fable serves good to PTC, that keeps evolving into something we dont know yet but we can assure it is clearly worst. Instead, they say they are improving but we dont know how, or what has been improved. Just like in the real socialism: "two steps forward, three steps backwards, but keep on smiling and cheering"

          Best regards, dear professor.

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          GerritBarrere1-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          October 8, 2013

          I don't see in the features summary whether 2D plots can now have two separate Y axes, like M15. Hello? Vector magnitude and phase on the same plot is really important, and they require different axes! I have to resort to M15 whenever I need that, and that is getting really old.

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          24-Ruby IV
          ValeryOchkov24-Ruby IV
          24-Ruby IV
          October 8, 2013

          Gerrit Barrere wrote:

          I don't see in the features summary whether 2D plots can now have two separate Y axes, like M15.

          Sorry, but M15 has not two separate X axes.

          I need it for Kelvin and Celsius temperature scale for example

          And second.

          M15 has not two separate scale of one Y axe.

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          GerritBarrere1-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          October 8, 2013

          Here's an example plot of two Y axes from M15:

          M15.png

          I need this kind of plot frequently. Even Excel does this, and it's hard to believe that P3 still doesn't.

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          lsanchezpantoja1-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          October 8, 2013

          Dear

          I have Mathcad Prime V2 adquired this year, is possible update to mathcad Prime V3

          Thanks.

          Luis

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          Werner_E25-Diamond I
          25-Diamond I
          October 8, 2013

          luis hugo sanchez pantoja wrote:

          Dear

          I have Mathcad Prime V2 adquired this year, is possible update to mathcad Prime V3

          Thanks.

          Luis

          As you are under maintainance, I guess you should be able to follow the instructions here

          http://communities.ptc.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/222145-57148/Gobal%20Support%20license%20retrieval%20instructions.pdf

          to update your license file.

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          ScottMilligan1-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          October 8, 2013

          Ah yes, but too bad for me following the link contained in those instructions results in a "document not found" error message. Mathcad licensing has not worked properly for me since PTC got their mitts on the product. Sorry guys, but you get an "F minus" from me regarding customer support that is as obtuse as the federal tax code. Nice work, PTC!

          Scott Milligan

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