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AlfredFlaßhaar15-Moonstone
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November 27, 2022
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Sinus Polynom

  • November 27, 2022
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Hello,

 

In 1594, Adriaan van Roomen set the task of determining the zeros of a polynomial of degree 45. This was quickly resolved by Vieta by taking a close look. One quickly discovers that the sine of 45*x is to be expanded by a polynomial in sine(x). I tried to understand this in the attached file. Mathcad 14 went on strike. I am asking for hints how to expand the product in attached file for n=45 into a polynomial. Mathcad drops out at n=11.

 

Kind regards, Alfred Flasshaar

Best answer by Werner_E

Actually Mathcads symbolics does not fail but simply refuses to display the result because it considers the expression with the 32 summands which you get for n=11 as being too large for display. You assign the result to a function of x and use it in further calculations, but unfortunately thats not what you want (you yculd use sinn(x) right away) - your goal is the display of the sum only.

 

In Mathcad 11 a registry entry could be set to let it display larger results as well, but to the best of my knowledge there is no way to do something similar in MC14.

 

You could use some shortcuts and substitute in your mind. That way you can get Mathcad display the expression at least for n=11 as well but for n=13 this again is to large to display ...

Werner_E_1-1669566104615.png

 

 

 

 

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Werner_E25-Diamond IAnswer
25-Diamond I
November 27, 2022

Actually Mathcads symbolics does not fail but simply refuses to display the result because it considers the expression with the 32 summands which you get for n=11 as being too large for display. You assign the result to a function of x and use it in further calculations, but unfortunately thats not what you want (you yculd use sinn(x) right away) - your goal is the display of the sum only.

 

In Mathcad 11 a registry entry could be set to let it display larger results as well, but to the best of my knowledge there is no way to do something similar in MC14.

 

You could use some shortcuts and substitute in your mind. That way you can get Mathcad display the expression at least for n=11 as well but for n=13 this again is to large to display ...

Werner_E_1-1669566104615.png

 

 

 

 

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    LucMeekes23-Emerald IV
    23-Emerald IV
    November 27, 2022

    Like this:

    LucMeekes_0-1669582006287.png

    For n=20 Mathcad 11 gives me an expression that starts with:

    LucMeekes_3-1669582666029.png

    and ends with

    LucMeekes_4-1669582764695.png

    (Note that there's a huge middle part)

    For n=30 the calculation took longer than I was willing to wait.

    But for n=45:

    LucMeekes_5-1669582863763.png

    Success!
    Luc

     

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    AlfredFlaßhaar15-MoonstoneAuthor
    15-Moonstone
    November 28, 2022

    Many Thanks. Strictly speaking, I'm interested in the integer coefficients in the cumulative expansion. It is Mr. F. Vieta's admirable way of thinking that arouses so much curiosity.

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