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12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010
Question

How to logout of Windchill?

  • February 12, 2010
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a Logout button in Windchill?



Especially when switching between user and administrator accounts this
could be very usefull in my opinion.
As a newbie user maybe I'm missing something, but I can't imagine
nobody else ever asked for this functionality.
Shouldn't be that hard to implement.


Olaf Corten
CAD/PLM Manager, Besi Competence Center - Other Business Applications
Fico BV, Ratio 6, 6921 RW Duiven, The Netherlands
Tel.: +31 26 3196215
Fax: +31 26 3196200
Mobile: +31 644548554
www.fico.nl

33 replies

10-Marble
February 12, 2010

I have to jump on the pile here: how can you NOT use multiple accounts? If you set access rights, etc for you users but only use an account with heightened privileges you will not be able to tell whether things are properly configured for the standard user..

I frequently use multiple accounts with multiple web browsers: I often have IE 7, Chrome and Firefox all running at the same time with different logins. Since Chrome apprears to be the (noticeably) fastest browser for doing most things, it's the one I use the most (it doesn't work 100% of the time with various parts of Windchill, so I can't use it by itself). I use IE wth Pro/E.

I would like a logout button so I can use my browser of choice without having to shut it down and restart it.. Running 3 browsers along with all the other stuff I use can often exhaust virtual memory..

My 2 cents..

Andrew Mansfield

KI Design & Development

Green Bay, WI

In Reply to Jess Holle:

It seems like something is wrong somewhere if an administrator has to
use multiple accounts.

The administrator should be able to just log in as themselves and do
what they have privileges for.

--
Jess Holle


12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010

What would help as well is to see which user is logged in in which browser window. Now, I always have to go back to the Home page in the particular window to know how I'm.

I think I've seen guidelines passing by to configure this, but I've lost the link ...

Have a nice weekend, Hugo.

<< ProE WF3 M190 - PDMLink 8.00 M040 >>

1-Visitor
February 12, 2010
Hugo, I'll resend it to you.what you referring to is something I created.I
posted it back in October last year to the list.



I'm also going to attempt to create a logout/logoff button this weekend. If
it works, I'll post something so everyone can add to their windchill systems
and test it out.



- David DeMay





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1-Visitor
February 12, 2010

Olaf

There is no need to close all the Tabs if you are using FireFox

to log out using Firefox you can use "Ctrl+Shift+Del" or "Tools | Clear Recent History" then refresh the page "F5" FireFox will prompt for user name and password, once you log in as a different user you have that users access permissions in all of the open "Tabbed Pages"

Dave McClinton

MCAD System Administrator

McKesson Automation

12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010
Hugo Hermans wrote:

To all:

Someone posted a solution to this a while back. I was looking for it
but could not find (granted I did not look very hard) if you know what
javascript I am referencing could you maybe repost the solution for all?

Thanks
--Bob
>
> What would help as well is to see which user is logged in in which
> browser window. Now, I always have to go back to the Home page in the
> particular window to know how I'm.
>
> I think I've seen guidelines passing by to configure this, but I've
> lost the link ...
>
>
>
> Have a nice weekend, Hugo.
>
> << ProE WF3 M190 - PDMLink 8.00 M040 >>
>
>
> -----End Original Message-----
12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010
David DeMay wrote:

Dave,
That would be cool! Can you also send out a pointer to the original code?
Sorry I should have read all my messages before sending out the last one.

--Bob

> Hugo, I’ll resend it to you…what you referring to is something I
> created…I posted it back in October last year to the list.
>
> I’m also going to attempt to create a logout/logoff button this
> weekend. If it works, I’ll post something so everyone can add to their
> windchill systems and test it out.
>
> - David DeMay
>
10-Marble
February 12, 2010

http://portal.ptcuser.org/p/fo/st/topic=16&post=80059#p80059

This is the link to David's solution for the name in the title bar.

12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010
What strikes me as "wrong" here is that one has to log in as a user to
predict the impact of administrative changes.

I suppose it may be unrealistic for the product to allow sufficient
predictability without testing by logging in as a "dummy" or "test"
user, but it would seem preferable to obviate the need for such test logins.

Basic authentication credentials are cached by the browser and there is
no reliable standard way for the server to get the browser to uncache
these. The best solution to this particular issue is one of the myriad
browser plugins that allow such a cache clearing for one's browser of
choice. For instance, I believe the web developer plugin for Firefox
allows this.

--
Jess Holle

12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010
That's exactly what strikes me as "wrong" -- the administrative tools
should provide enough information as to the impact of administrative
settings that one does not have to login as a representative member of
each group.

If the tools are not up to the task today, then certainly I can
understand fulfilling the need through login testing.

--
Jess Holle

On 2/12/2010 9:37 AM, Kunz,William,IRVINE,R&D wrote:
> The place where this problem bites administrators is when it is necessary to do testing for different types of group permissions.
>
> Then it is required to login in as a representative member of each group to test for the correct configuration of ACLs, etc.
>
>
12-Amethyst
February 12, 2010
On 2/12/2010 9:37 AM, Olaf Corten wrote:
> Hi Jess,
>
> I don't agree and think that's a bit shortsighted.
>
> Imagine a user with multiple roles who uses different accounts for them.
> He is doing design stuff 80% of his time and administrator tasks 20% of
> his time. He wants to switch between accounts easily.
> Imagine an administrator who wants to login as wcadmin or as orgadmin or
> with his own account or as a testuser.
>
It would seem to make a good deal more sense for the user to always log
in as themselves, rather than as "wcadmin", etc, and for them to simply
be in the Administrators, etc, groups as is appropriate for the
privileges they need.

On issue with the user logging in as "wcadmin" or "orgadmin" is that you
then lose traceability of which administrator did an action if you have
multiple administrators. From a traceability perspective, it makes much
more sense for everyone to log in as themselves.

This isn't UNIX and "root" -- the application shouldn't be dangerous to
use with one's full privileges. If it is, then I'd assert that that
would be a case of "
> Most online portals (even www.ptc.com) provide a logout button.
>
> The general conscensus seems to be that for administrators this would be
> a nice feature.
> Especially since logoff means closing the entire browser with all it's
> tabs.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olaf Corten
> CAD/PLM Manager, Besi Competence Center - Other Business Applications
> Fico BV, Ratio 6, 6921 RW Duiven, The Netherlands
> Tel.: +31 26 3196215
> Fax: +31 26 3196200
> Mobile: +31 644548554
> www.fico.nl
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jess Holle [
>> user name and password. Recent versions of Firefox have this ability
>>
> under:
>
>> Tools | Clear Recent History and then make sure you only select
>> "Active Logins"
>>
>> Or you can download the "Web Developer" addon for FireFox which
>> provides this functionality (and a whole lot more) under:
>> Miscellaneous | Clear Private Data | HTTP Authentication
>>
>> FireFox also give one the ability to run multiple profiles so you can
>> be logged into a given website (such as your Windchill install) as
>> different users at the same time.
>>
>>
>
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