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DeanLong1-Visitor
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August 14, 2014
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YouTube Tutorials

  • August 14, 2014
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Hey guys and girls,


This may be better presented on ETC and I am sure the gatekeeper will decide and move it if it does. But I am curious how many of you when faced with a design challenge or situationwill go on YouTube and search for a tutorial clip. Is it effective for you?I am toying around with the idea of creating tutorial clips and sharing almost 30 years of experience on Pro. But I am still a working stiff so it would take time out of work schedule to do it. And of course, in the New World Order, nobody pays for training unless they are in a classroom. At my age, to build a following where advertisers would want to run ads on my YouTube channel is highly unlikely. Writing books is futile as many tried that early on in Pro/E world.


I am just asking for opinions if it's worth the time deviation, if anyone else has done it and does it even matter in a world of free labor? Thoughts?


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jelpedes11-Visitor
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August 14, 2014
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August 14, 2014
I am getting ready to evaluate a product called "Nitro-CELL" from
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ptc-19327451-Visitor
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August 14, 2014
More and more this is my preferred mode of learning new stuff for most (if not all) of my software.

The best thing about youtube is that is almost truly portable. OSX, Win, Linux, Android, ...

Please do us a favor and segregate the videos by task and CAD version (WF5, CREO2, etc...)
I am currently upgrading to CREO2 from CE/P5 and (of course) the PTC help has references to workflows etc... pre-CREO. Very confusing.

Christopher F. Gosnell

FPD Company
124 Hidden Valley Road
McMurray, PA 15317
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pdkoren1-Visitor
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August 14, 2014
My company blocks ALL youtube videos, but I have on occasion emailed the link to my home address and watched them there... Usually, you can find a non-video answer to querry's, just may take a little more looking...
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rrich1-Visitor
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August 14, 2014
Dean I think this is directed to you but I did not get in on the first email of this stream.

Where to begin. First off, books are still useful to some people. A friend of mine Mike Brattoli has written Creo books and gone through self-publishing to distribute them. I don’t think you will get rich doing it but it will pay back some. Secondly Mike took his book to the college he teaches adjunct at and they use it as the course material so it is like building in a market place. You can find his books at www.lulu.com<">http://www.lulu.com> search for Creo. Mike will most likely read this and chime in but what he does is very worth wild.

As for videos get some help it is a major undertaking to do good videos. Some of the best I have seen and learned from have been Leo Green’s at
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DeanLong1-VisitorAuthor
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August 14, 2014

Thanks (so far) for all the cool responses. By cool, I mean nobody has said I am a Dope for even having the idea. I too have watched YouTube and found it to be okay...but very dry and impersonal. A lot of do this, do that,click here, zoom/pan/rotate, click here, click there.....voila, all done...grab a lollie-pop on your way out. Leaves me cold....as design is a passion for me. I will not get on the Old Geezer diatribe here, as I am sure most of you know I could. But MCAD in general has become too sterile and ...well maybe we leave that for another day...or maybe my first upload? ;o) So, special mentions....


Ron Rich: While I do not know Mike Brattolli personally, I have many years of exposure to him and his books. Great stuff. He is a Pro/E storm trooper from way back. Videos don't seemd to be so difficult now with the tools at hand. I have been playing around recently and honestly, the only stumble I have is when my office phone rings I have to pick it up. Hmmm...silence the ringer might be a good idea.


Your point of RUG's. Not to sound dismissive on that, but been there and done that. I was the Great Lakes RUG Prez for three years and it's definitely a labor of love. Also, I am not in a geographic area of "massive Creo" users so no RUG even exists.


Scott Rockwell: You have touched on the kernal of why I even give this a more than passing thought. Generic, canned stuff has never been very effective. Whenever I train people, I have insisted I sit at their station, with their configs doing their products. I never made sense to me to teach someone how to model a bathtub when they are tasked with making turbines. So, part of my "thought" is to get some generic things out there common to all then solicit requests, create my version and then post for all to see....but specifically to one who asked.


Steve Lucas: You have me mixed up with someone else as I have not yet put any YouTube videos out yet. However, is it possible you attened a training seminar at one point?


Tom Uminn: Good info and looks like a potential partner.


John Wayman: I like your optimism, dude. Here, here to the virality of MCAD!


Jerry Elpedes: You sir have the unique position of testifying that I am indeed a Geezer from way back. We worked together as far back as 1991-ish and it's good to see you have stuck with it. All those days of Bill's crazy 6 minute timesheet documention every Monday morning and pushing Pro/Program to its breaking point. Good times....


Again, thanks to all you guys for keeping this hair brained idea alive for one more day, at least.

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DeanLong1-VisitorAuthor
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August 14, 2014

Oh and...


Bernie Gruman: Another Pro/E Storm Trooper. I am not sure how what I may create could help situations like yours and provide a little shuffle board betting money for me. That is the step of faith I grapple with at the moment.


Paul Korenkiewicz: (of diesel engine designfame from way back in Auburn Hills) We need to get your current company to unblock access to the gold, my friend.

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jelpedes11-Visitor
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August 14, 2014
Dean Long,
Good times indeed at Bill’s shop. Timesheet or TPS Reports, pick your gratuitous mundane office paperwork. Nevertheless, a well-organized Creo YouTube knowledge base will be a great resource for the user community and I look forward to it.

Chris Gosnell,
Perhaps we have an opportunity to append the quote you have from Confucius ☺

I hear and I forget.
I see and I remember.
I do and I understand.
Have YouTube and do all three.
Rinse, lather and repeat.
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MikeBrattoli12-Amethyst
12-Amethyst
August 14, 2014
First of all, thanks for the kind words. I spent a lot of time looking at written manuals and books and found a number of them to be okay but often written/developed by individuals who had never worked in industry designing products! Many of these manuscripts provide step by step instructions and exercises but fail to address the most important question someone needs to know when learning Pro/E & Creo – WHY AM I MAKING THESE PICKS OR USING THIS TECHNIQUE? The hardest part of teaching Pro/E and now Creo (started using Pro/E with release 11 and started teaching it at the college level with release 15) is matching the “learning technique” to the student and answering the “WHY” of it all.

I finally ended up writing my own books because I wasn’t totally satisfied with what was available. As mentioned by Jerry below, sharing 20 years worth of PTC product experience is a very worthwhile experience but unless you want to try and make a living from the endeavor you won’t get rich doing so on a part time basis. I’m lucky that my employer has supported by self-publishing activities and uses what I wrote to support our internal users (along with PTC eLearning).

As noted below and in other comments about this topic, some people learn best using a written manual/book (you can usually tell how often it’s referenced by the number of post it notes and highlighted sections they have), while others are very comfortable using a video based path to learning the required techniques/picks.

My college course has included a wide variety of users – young college age students who are incredibly comfortable with the digital age (You Tube, Twitter, Web based eLearning, etc….) mixed in with older men/women who have engineering/design experience but did most of their work using AutoCAD or other 2D tools and need to retrain themselves to work in a 3D world. I’ve found that offering a mix of tools including written and digital content provides the “student” with the optimum way of learning the application.

Based on personal experiences I would recommend You Tube,
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bkurth10-Marble
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August 15, 2014

Dean,


Something for you to consider, is that you already have a following. You're a respected individual here on this forum, and there are a lot of us here! For you to offer your wisdom up to us in a manner that makes it easy to find, and use, I think would be a great thing. I would subscribe, for sure.


I think once you started putting them up, and we found out, word of mouth here, would drive traffic there. We are all in need of good methods to make us better. I wouldn't be concerned about your age being a limiter...your knowledge is still just as valid.


There are my thoughts...


Brian



In Reply to Dean Long:



Hey guys and girls,


This may be better presented on ETC and I am sure the gatekeeper will decide and move it if it does. But I am curious how many of you when faced with a design challenge or situationwill go on YouTube and search for a tutorial clip. Is it effective for you?I am toying around with the idea of creating tutorial clips and sharing almost 30 years of experience on Pro. But I am still a working stiff so it would take time out of work schedule to do it. And of course, in the New World Order, nobody pays for training unless they are in a classroom. At my age, to build a following where advertisers would want to run ads on my YouTube channel is highly unlikely. Writing books is futile as many tried that early on in Pro/E world.


I am just asking for opinions if it's worth the time deviation, if anyone else has done it and does it even matter in a world of free labor? Thoughts?


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