Replacing balloons table in assembly drawings

Author

12-Amethyst

Monsieur Dude,

yes I already know balloons are linked to the table, I was asking whether there is a way to replace the table with a new one, just like one replaces a component in a assembly --> all the links change automatically their references!

thanks

Bye

D

dschenken

1-Visitor

No, at least not until PTC adds that specific function, which won't be any time soon.

Someone with access to Toolkit might be able to parse the drawing, record the exact locations and groups and references/attach points, and any items (symbols, text) that are related to those balloons, make a list to record the table entries vs balloon numbers, then delete the table which will delete all the balloons, then go through the new table and search for matches between the previous table and new table entries and recreate the balloons, change their attachments to match, change their locations to match and relate any symbol and text to the balloons that were related to the previous balloons.It may also require verifying the original layers the balloons were on and, possibly, some other characteristics.

S

schavan

1-Visitor

if it is just change in language then dont delete the original table (the one with balloons linked to it as you might need it later) just place it outside the format (it wont show up in the PDF after export ) and for the new table, fix the index same as the balloon.. Not much of a solution though!

Author

12-Amethyst

Hallo Sandeep,

yes could be a solution but it would bother me to leave a table outside the format...but anyway, how can I fix the index as you wrote?

thanks

mmuhamedagic

1-Visitor

Hi Tommaso,

First of all question: Why you need to change BOM table ? Only becouse language or is there more reasons ?

If you need to put new language, you must separate table (make two tables template), one for textual (on several languages) and one for repeat region content.

There is a lot of solutions for you languages insertion ( exp. you can do also trough parameters, etc).

But if I get it right, you need quick solution for ballon arranging ?

Author

12-Amethyst

Hi,

unfortunately it is not so easy as you think, indeed we are using Windchill and we constantly work with both languages (Italian and English), we have Windchill and model-related parameters that must form repeat regions, for instance the description of a component of an assembly.

So switching the language of the column/rows titles is not sufficient unfortunately.

Yes I was searching a way to just transfer the indexes of the table from the existing to a new one.

thanks

bye

mmuhamedagic

1-Visitor

Hi Tommaso,

OK, still you didn't answer why you need to change BOM table? The reason why Im asking is: I notice in your clip that you've replaced table with other table with different amount of items. So if you are doing that, the assembly also has been changed (you get new revision) ?

I´m trying to find reason, and I apologise if you wanna keep your reason.

I presume that you had replace some parts in assembly and after that you need fresh BOM table ??

If you´re trying to change table with previous parts replacement and changing assembly, you dont need to insert new table. It automaticlly regenerate, and reorder ballons. And if you are missing some ballons just add them into drawing.

Of course you maybe already know this, but Im short in your answer before.

mbonka

2-Explorer

My praxis is following:

STEP 01: Create a assembly BOM drawing

STEP 02: l need change drawing format and KEEP BOM baloons

STEP 03: KEEP ORIGINAL BOM TABLE and remove original Title block

STEP 04: After format exchange, there are two BOM tables. DELETE new BOM table and move original one als you wish.

STEP 05: Result: Format was chnged and BOM baloons are kept.

l hope it can help you...

Author

12-Amethyst

Dear Milan,

thanks for your detailed reply. I didn't understand exactly steps 2 and 3 (when one changes format can single tables be selected to be keep or removed ?)

Anyway if I got it it seems that with your method you keep the original BOM table, instead what I want to do is to change it while keeping the balloons.

anyway you suggested me an idea, that is to to insert the BOM table directly inside the format so when I load the format the corresponding BOM table automatically appears (didn't know about this possibility).

thanks

bye