Skip to main content
M
MuzzyP1-Visitor
1-Visitor
September 21, 2017
Solved

Creo 4 Balloon and Note Placement Snapping Constraints

  • September 21, 2017
  • 6 replies
  • 78362 views

Is there any way to disable, or at minimum override, the sketcher type constraints that effect the placement of balloons?

 

I am placing roughly 100 bom balloons on a drawing view and am having issues with positioning the balloons were I want, because they insist on snapping normal or tangent, or so on, to features and components.

 

Is there any way to disable this? In sketcher you could temporarily disable or ignore a constraint if you needed, by right clicking or selecting the constraint and deleting it. That does not work for the constraints that pop up while placing a balloon. I believe all notes behave this way, but placing balloons is where it is causing the most issues as generally things get pretty crowded. The range of the snapping, precision if you will, is very large too, 10 degrees in my case.

 

I have looked through all of the config and drawing options as well as tried disabling sketcher preferences and adjusting accuracy of the sketcher constraints to no avail.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

    Best answer by kdirth

    FYI  It seems they do listen, sometimes.  This issue should be resolved in 4.0 M130 coming out this month in response to this idea:  Option-to-disable-turn-off-annotation-leader-snapping

     

    Only took 2 1/2 years😎

    6 replies

    A
    AmitDeshpande18-Opal
    18-Opal
    September 21, 2017

    Hello,

     

    Can you elaborate on what you are doing and the behavior you are seeing?  Perhaps upload a video of the behavior.  This may be helpful to fully understand the issue.

     

    Thanks,

    Amit

    M
    MuzzyP1-VisitorAuthor
    1-Visitor
    September 21, 2017

    I attached two snapshots.

     

    If I try to move a balloon and it happens to be near a point where the leader line is near tangent to the attached entity, or perpendicular (normal) to it, it snaps to where it would be tangent or perpendicular to it.

     

    There is no way to disable this that I am aware of. I would think you could right click to disable the automatic snapping constraint, like you can when you are in sketcher mode creating a feature, but this does not work. Just the same, disabling the constraints activated for sketcher does not effect this behavior.

     

    Perpendicular_Balloon.jpgTangent_Balloon.jpg

    B
    BillChapman13-Aquamarine
    13-Aquamarine
    September 22, 2017

    We have also found this problematic on certain drawings.  I would suggest PTC add the ability to hit the control key to override this perpendicular snap constraint.

      P
      ptc-62906451-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      August 2, 2018

      I cannot imagine why this balloon leader constraint would have ever been implemented.  Cannot see who would ever want it.  There are times when you change the attachment point, the balloon will jump to a different part of the sheet.  Just get rid of it.

        M
        MuzzyP1-VisitorAuthor
        1-Visitor
        August 2, 2018

        Agreed.

        We have been on Creo 4 for almost a year now, and the number of times I have found the balloon snapping behavior useful?

        Zero.

          D
          ddavis-21-Visitor
          1-Visitor
          November 5, 2018

          This is not "Solved" until PTC provides an option to disable this not so brilliant force fed behavior.  Please PTC, give users a choice to snap or not to snap sooner than later!

            M
            MartinHanak24-Ruby III
            24-Ruby III
            November 1, 2019

            Hi,

            today I met reported problem.

            Workaround ... create snap line related to view and attach balloon to it ... then you can move snap line to requested position (balloon follows snap line) ... "perpendicularity" of leader line is ignored in this case.

             

            Note: Tested in Creo 5.0.4.0

            Z
            ZRJ4-Participant
            4-Participant
            November 4, 2019
            Thanks for the reply but this is fudgery, PTC needs to do something about the terrible drawing application before customers start jumping ship


              kdirth
              21-Topaz I
              kdirth21-Topaz I
              21-Topaz I
              November 4, 2019

              Vote for this Idea:  https://community.ptc.com/t5/Creo-Parametric-Ideas/Option-to-disable-turn-off-annotation-leader-snapping/idi-p/493258

              It was acknowledged over a year ago, but it seems the issue has not been addressed.

              There is always more to learn.
              kdirth
              21-Topaz I
              kdirth21-Topaz IAnswer
              21-Topaz I
              April 16, 2020

              FYI  It seems they do listen, sometimes.  This issue should be resolved in 4.0 M130 coming out this month in response to this idea:  Option-to-disable-turn-off-annotation-leader-snapping

               

              Only took 2 1/2 years😎

              There is always more to learn.
                C
                cgorni16-Pearl
                16-Pearl
                January 13, 2022

                This information and some details are also available in article CS272490

                  A
                  AR_95046141-Visitor
                  1-Visitor
                  October 13, 2020

                  Found this to be useful. Solved my problem.

                   

                  http://support.ptc.com/help/creo/creo_pma/usascii/index.html#page/detail/To_Change_the_Balloon_Leader_Attachment_Point_an.html

                   

                   

                  kdirth
                  21-Topaz I
                  kdirth21-Topaz I
                  21-Topaz I
                  October 16, 2020

                  If you follow the link in my previous post, at the bottom is instructions on the fix implemented in 4.0 M130.

                  The simplest is to turn it off by deselecting Snap To Guides.

                  kdirth_0-1602850260995.png

                   

                  There is always more to learn.
                  Terms & ConditionsCookie settingsAccessibility statement