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14-Alexandrite
June 3, 2013
Question

Haswell i7 o/c or Haswell Xeon dual

  • June 3, 2013
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Hopefully the subject filtered in the right people.

I am looking to build a new PC; Haswells were launched yesterday. I am wondering what people's experiences were with dual Xeon's versus overclocked i7s. The closest my own experince has been is with gen2 i7 o/c versus a gen3 Xeon (single) and the i7 seemed to perform better.

But I am open to ideas and curious if anyone has spent some time doing some tests with multiple hardware configs.

Also, possibly the same people have done some GeForce versus Quadro testing? I have done a little bit not enough to state really good data. But I have not seen much benefit of a Quadro card, other then everything looks a little nicer on the screen, but I probably notice more than the average user. (I don't do rendering stuff).

Matt

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    1-Visitor
    June 3, 2013

    I suppose it's primarily for running Pro/E? To my knowledge, only the Assembly module can use more than one core. Last time I checked, part regeneration was all done in a single thread, so you didn't get any improvements by having dozens available. In fact I think the nature of the task may mean it's limited to one thread for the foressable future.

    When I looked into all this stuff, I decided the Xeons weren't worth the extra money for this sort of work. I did a thorough comparison between the a first gen Nehalem i7s and similarly priced Nehalem Xeon and I found the i7 performed slightly better. I seem to remember concluding that it was because the Xeon required error-correcting memory, which is inheriently slower than regular non-spacestaion memory. It's also relatively expensive. I found it a little amusing that many workstation manufacturers would push Xeons and low-end "Fire Pro" or "Quadro" over the almost identical "domestic" i7s and gaming graphics cards. I even had a guy from Dell tell me that I could add extra Xeon processors in the future via expansion cards. Yes really.

    So far as graphics go, I can't tell the difference between a mid-range pro card and a high-end gaming card (both ATi/AMD). They benchmark very differently, but when I can't see the difference in Pro/E I'm inclined to think that doesn't matter.

    This is all a good few years old, so I'd recommend heading over to Guru3D and asking there. It used to be a very good forum for this sort of stuff.

    Inoram14-AlexandriteAuthor
    14-Alexandrite
    June 4, 2013

    Yes, to run Pro/E (creo2).

    So it sounds like your experience has been similar to mine, though.

    Also, I just did some part modify/regen with the task manager open and I can see it using it all the cores.

    Dale_Rosema
    23-Emerald III
    23-Emerald III
    June 4, 2013

    Here is a good discussion from last month:

    http://communities.ptc.com/message/205052#205052