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udyna1-Visitor
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January 18, 2017
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Is there a plan to make Creo 5.0 support Apple MacOS

  • January 18, 2017
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Since IT replace all the Thinkpad to Macbook, now many engineers are complaining why Creo don't support Apple MacOS say NX supports Macbook, why not replace Creo by NX, this is a big trouble for me. It wastes a lots of times to install two operation system and switch each other day by day.

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    udyna1-VisitorAuthor
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    January 18, 2017

    There is an existing product idea here Creo Parametric support Apple MacOS

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      dschenken1-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      January 18, 2017

      It can cost as much as 50% of the original development cost to rehost, test, and market to a secondary operating system. I expect that the proportion of Macbook owners relative to Windows will never exceed this, so there is no economic reason to try.

      You can see the limited support Siemens has for NX on OSX: Hardware and Software Certifications: Siemens PLM Software It isn't extensive except for Windows and appears to be decreasing over time. Redhat and SUSE Linux appear to have better support than OSX and are probably the reason it is available on OSX due to the similarity of OSX to Linux.

      In order of expected rehost  for any Windows software:

      1) Linux

      1a) Android

      2) AmigaOS ( I can wish can't I?)

      3) BeOS ( keep the dream alive)

      4) OSX

      5) NeXT ( because Display Postscript deserves a chance)

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      mender12-Amethyst
      12-Amethyst
      January 18, 2017

      It isn't quite as bad as all that for a product like Creo, which was designed for platform independence from the beginning (and supported VMS and Unix before Windows).  It's still a major undertaking, and will happen as we find enough customers wanting a particular platform to make it a good use of our limited resources.

      (Note I don't have authority to comment on any specific plans we may or not have, and please do not take this note as saying there are or aren't any. Thanks!)

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        dschenken1-Visitor
        1-Visitor
        January 18, 2017

        How bad would it be? Sure, keep those options open.

        I am looking at about 30 years of software development and the small number of companies that have been able to support multiple OSs. Wordperfect was the last one to really make an effort. A certain big company has enough cash to port their office products, but I know they weren't designed to be portable and they don't do it for the income.

        I know that PTC originally split the underlying code from the GUI, such as MOTIF et al, so it could be ported among the various UNIXes with the resulting custom code for the supporting the interface moved to Windows. Perhaps I'm mistaken but the last time I looked WF used almost no standard Windows dialog boxes, making interfacing with tools like AutoIt almost impossible. Being not-native makes porting easier, but then it doesn't fit so well on the target with user expectations; one of the reason that Solidworks seems to feel better to those who like it.

        I worked with Pro/Engineer when it was only usable on UNIX (HPUX, Solaris, Ultrix, et al). At the time it seemed to be UNIX only and it still bears that mark, though a lot of changes to the outside interface have occurred to obscure them. A lot of users were looking forward to Itanium before HP and Intel screwed that up for the HPUX side. I recall my disappointment when I was moved to the Windows NT version.

        I know it ran on DEC equipment, but I don't recall a VMS version**. Even at the time that would have been a clear waste of money to develop. Ken Olson had enough missteps at the time the writing was on the wall.

        **It could have, but I don't see any docs. We were a VAXn company and would have given priority to VMS if it was available, but we ended up with HPUX. Still, Cutler took VMS and made WNT (one letter down, lucky coincidence) so, in a way, it now runs primarily on VMS.

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        StephenW23-Emerald III
        23-Emerald III
        January 18, 2017

        Pretty sad IT group if they make decisions like that without figuring out the software that is used by the company to make money...

        Well, maybe pretty typical IT solution, if they can solve all their problems by changing hardware, the rest of the company can figure out how to do their tedious tasks on what they are given.

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        Mat16-Pearl
        16-Pearl
        February 3, 2017

        I also would like to see other OS - support for Creo.

        Either MacOS or Linux.

        jbailey
        jbailey18-Opal
        18-Opal
        February 28, 2018

        Yes, it's called Creo in the Cloud

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        BenLoosli23-Emerald III
        23-Emerald III
        February 28, 2018

        I don't see PTC porting to anything in the near future. They have dropped support in the last few years for all of their Un*x systems. It would take a big chunk of money for PTC to port to a new OS, IMHO.

        They are even dropping some Un*x OS servers from their Windchill family.

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        shawnLee10-Marble
        10-Marble
        May 16, 2018

        I need Creo for MacOS too.

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        BenLoosli23-Emerald III
        23-Emerald III
        May 16, 2018

        Don't hold your breath for a port of Creo to MacOS.

        There is no business model that supports such a move.

        Unless some company is willing to fund the port, I do not see any reason for PTC to invest in this.

        You have Windows virtual machines for MacOS, use them and run a Windows version of Creo.

         

        The reason Siemen's NX is on MacOS is that Apple funded part of the port back at NX4. They did not release the MacOS version to others until NX6. Apple has been a Unigraphics/NX customer since 1991 and committed fully to it in 1994 when UG V10 was released. Before the MacOS port, Apple used SGI workstations.

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