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Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

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Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

We are looking for being provided with Roadmap and Features related to Windchill 12.0 but it seems that we are unlucky with this requirement...

Initially, Windchill 12.0 was supposed to be released end of Q2 2019; now it has been announced to be released end of Q2 2020; in between, 11.2 has been released but there is no LTR (Long Term Release) scheduled for 11.2 as it is the case with 11.1 M020

So what is the best Upgrade strategy? considering that we would need to target 11.1 or 11.2 (from 11.0) and right away need to consider 12.0.2.0 (the LTR for WNC 12.0 to be scheduled end of Q2 2021), knowing that 11.1 will be supported until Q4 2022 and 11.2 will be suported until Q2 2022, which would give a very short amount of time to be supported with 11.2 (in case we select 11.2) according to the time needed to upgrade to 12.0 from 11.2...

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Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

The support end dates of 11.1 and 11.2 are irrelevant if you plan on upgrading to 12.0 when it is released in late 2020. This will be well before the EOS dates.

I would also like to know about the enhancements and improvements being planned for Windchill 12.0, as thjis is my next planned install from 11.0. We are staying on Creo 4, just for the transition from 11.0 to 12.0 and will then go to Creo 7.

 

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

To be clear and as advised by PTC, we do not wish to jump directly to 12.0.0.0 or 12.0.1.0 but we need to target the Long Term Release (LTR) for 12.0 which is 12.0.2.0 (Kangaroo) estimated to be released Mid 2021, hence only 1 year to consider the upgrade until the end of support with 11.2 in Q2 2022 and 6 months more with 11.1 until Q4 2022 and we may need a large amount of time (6 months to 1 year) as per our lessons learned with previous upgrades...

 

Also when considering upgrading from 11.0 to 12.0 I would advise to double check the Supported Upgrade Paths as in principle, PTC usually supports a maximum of two release in the upgrade process, meaning that if you are in 11.0, you cannot consider a direct jump to 12.0 as two intermediate releases are in between with 11.1 or 11.2; so you may have to consider a two-steps upgrade process and this is why we are first identifying 11.1 or 11.2 as our intermediate release before targeting 12.0; however, not knowing what 12.0 is really all about does not encourage us to consider a second upgrade right after the first one - in blind mode...

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

Good point about the upgrade path, but according to this PTC document, 11.0 to 12.0 should be a valid upgrade path.

https://www.ptc.com/support/-/media/FB7056EF89E1477E82A34F7B3F8354A6.pdf?sc_lang=en

However, where is 11.2 on that chart???

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

Are you sure you linked to the correct document?  That is the current supported upgrade path, not the future path.  It does include Windchill 11.2, but it does not include anything about 12.0.

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

I still hope that 12 is coming next June, but there are slides around which are showing a Windchill 11.2.2 version. Perhaps Windchill 12 is already delayed? This are only sales slides and it could be a typo?!?

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

Might just be some typos or something. PTC is still planning on 12.0 in the June timeframe based on Java 12. They are looking at supporting both Oracle JDK 12.0 and Amazon OpenJDK Corretto for those that don't want to pay for Oracle support. 

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

JDK 11 and not 12

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

Here's what I've heard for Windchill 12:

  • June 2020 Release
  • Support for Amazon Corretto as an alternative for Oracle Java/licensing
  • Check box support for Windchill attributes.

We're looking at possibly starting to use Windchill Change Notices so we're debating about whether Windchill 11.1 is worth upgrading to for Change Management improvements or just stay at Windchill 11 until Windchill 12 is available.

 

I would absolutely love for PTC to add some of these ideas:

Re: Windchill 12.0 Roadmap and Features - Any News?

There are minor improvements in the change management corner of WC11.1 or 11.2. It depends how deep your change management will be.

If you stay on WC11 please check that you don't use the legacy links. Otherwise the legacy links must be migrated to the new flexible links during the next upgrade.

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