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14-Alexandrite
January 31, 2022
Question

Non linear speed control

  • January 31, 2022
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Hi community , Once again I call on you .

my problem:

I have a mechanism with a non-linear movement

in input, I have a linear displacement, and in output I have an angular displacement

this displacement follows a behavior curve

curve.jpg

 

I want to drive the input with a motor, so here is my problem.

I want to find a max speed value of motor to reach a given angular position. But also that time is linear

 

that is to say, if I want to go from 0 degrees to 60 degrees (for example) what will be my lowest linear displacement time (constant speed value at output), and what will be my motor control curve

 

the solution I found is cut the curve with linear parts,but I don't really like it because it's DIY

I don't see the way to get there, maybe with the derivative

 

If someone has an idea

 

 

 

2 replies

25-Diamond I
January 31, 2022

I don't see your attempt in the file you sent.

As far as I understand you are looking for a function

alpha -> speed in rev/s

Can you show the calculations necessary and the result for one or two example angles?

XDN14-AlexandriteAuthor
14-Alexandrite
January 31, 2022

I'm having trouble explaining myself because I don't speak the language well.

example

if i want to move Alpha =60deg ( row 61 in alpha matrix)

the imput stroke is  32.355mm (row 61 in s matrix)

 

For 1 motor rev  the imput stroke is :0.069mm

Capture d’écran 2022-01-31 130442.jpgFinally, i need to make 32.355mm

and so my motor must do 32.355/0.069 = 468.913 rev

 

max motor rev speed :0.287 rev/s but is non linear

if i cut the curve, and if that I admit a linear part from 0deg to 10deg

for 10 deg  , imput is 2.682mm

2.682/0.069=38.87rev

time is :135.436s    for travel 0 to 10deg

and now i assume my curve is linear from 10deg to 60deg

imput stroke 60deg =32.355mm

imput stroke 10deg = 2.682mm

32.355-2.682 = 29.673mm

29.673/0.069= 430.043rev

430.043/0.287=1498s

I don't know if I'm clear, but I want to come to this:

find max speed motor for each target value (row of alpha matrix) for a linear travel time

i want to move 0deg to 60deg with lineartravel, for this I can see that my motor must turn slowly at the beginning, then as quickly as possible at the end

the max speed end is 0.287rev/s so it is this value which is measured to evaluate the speeds at small angles

 

sorry for these confusing explanations, I think there may be a way with the derivative, but I can't find anything

 

XDN14-AlexandriteAuthor
14-Alexandrite
January 31, 2022

I wrote how I determine the curve

i try to make alpha function with Mathcad loess

I'm really sorry for having posed the problem so badly in the 1st messages

I too hope that the night will help me

ttokoro
21-Topaz I
February 12, 2022

As Fred Kohlhepp already mentioned, using polyfitc function, you can use to do next step mathematically.

Tokoro.

t.t.