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PrebenReventlow_1036971-Visitor
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April 24, 2012
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BOM Balloons for simplified reps!

  • April 24, 2012
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Hi

We have some fairly large assemblies which we want to show on a drawing.

The problem is that on sheet 1 we use a simplified rep called Default with a BOM and BOM Balloons.

On sheet 2 we have a simplified rep called Inspection_side with several components hided.

We want to use the numbers from the BOM on sheet 1 to show up on Balloons on sheet 2.

OTB it's not possible, but have any of you some good ideas??

Best answer by PrebenReventlow_103697

We dug a little deeper and found a solution.

Layout Tab > Format section > Component Display > Blank.

Not the most sophisticated solution, but it works well for us.

You can pick the model in the view or in the browser.

Now you can keep the same Simp Rep and just "adjust" it a little bit.

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DomenicLaritz
DomenicLaritz17-Peridot
17-Peridot
April 24, 2012

We often have the same problem - and also no useful solution!

Always doing double work on two repeat regions.

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PrebenReventlow_1036971-VisitorAuthorAnswer
1-Visitor
April 24, 2012

We dug a little deeper and found a solution.

Layout Tab > Format section > Component Display > Blank.

Not the most sophisticated solution, but it works well for us.

You can pick the model in the view or in the browser.

Now you can keep the same Simp Rep and just "adjust" it a little bit.

    DomenicLaritz
    DomenicLaritz17-Peridot
    17-Peridot
    April 24, 2012

    The problem is, if somebody else has to make a modification on the drawing, he only on closer inspection recognizes, that components in a view have been blanked.

    We're using WF4 - maybe in the drawing model tree (since WF5) this can be regognized better?!

    One way or another, PTC please provide us a solution!

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    AldoSouza1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    May 21, 2012

    Hi ,

    In my opinion using index for balloons is not very reliable, even for one single table, if you have simp rep it will become worse.

    My suggestion -

    1- Create a string parameter you models . "pos" for example.

    2- Instead of index column use "asm.mbr.pos" as parameter in the repeat region

    3- Create a Custom Balloon symbol , or a copy from the existing one.

    4- If copied, edit the copied symbol and replace where is "\index\" by "\asm.mbr.pos\".

    5- Use that custom balloon symbol to show your balloons from repeat regions.....

    That way you won't need to worry about fix/unfix. Each components will have its own position, no matter what simp. rep you are using.

    Also you are able capture the value for that "pos" parameter from your file number if you want to.

    Think about that.

    Regards

      J
      JavierGarcia10-Marble
      10-Marble
      June 4, 2012

      I have used the technique you are talking about and it works but it has got some problems. For example, we use fasteners that don´t have any numbers, the file name can be: DIN912_M10x50. With these fasteners or other commercial items we don´t have any numbers to capture your "pos" from...

      Regards

      T
      ThibaultDubuis6-Contributor
      6-Contributor
      November 20, 2012

      Hello,

      I recently found a nice behavior of ProE regarding Pro/report and SimpRep that could solve your issue:

      1) Create a "temp" simprep with all comps as MasterRep.

      2) Create a "temp" drw with a view of the ASM + ReportTable (related to the "temp" SimpRep)

      --> Fix all Indexes of the region

      --> Create balloons for all

      --> SAve your temp drawing

      --> Erase the Temp Drawing from memory

      3) Delete the "temp" SimpRep from your ASM

      4) Create your Final Drawing

      5) Import (merge) the temp DRW in your Final Drawing

      The trick is here: As the "Temp" SimpRep does exists anymore, ProE asks to select another SimpRep to replace it !

      --> You Merge the Temp drawing twice and your job is done !

      Hope this helps.

      Thibault

      Patriot_1776
      Patriot_177622-Sapphire II
      22-Sapphire II
      November 20, 2012

      If you have a stand alone "repeat-region-type" BOM table, as I've made, the simplified rep that is active when you insert the table is the one that populates the table. You can then "fix index" to get all the parts to match the "master" BOM on sheet 1. Fixing indexes is easy and should always be done anyways because if you go changing the order of the parts in the model tree, it will affect the master BOM anyways, leading to issues with notes referencing certain item numbers. In my opinion, fixing indexes is mandatory, and would solve your problem as well. It's also extremely simple.

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      Spencer_Brock1-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      March 7, 2019

      Does fixing the index allow you to redistribute quantities between balloons from the different reps?

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      tnguyen-71-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      June 1, 2017

      I stuck with this problem for the whole day. This is what I done so far.

      Repeat Region  - Model/Rep - (click on your region) then link to your Assembly file. On open rep windows choose you Rep that you want to show on that detail drawing.

      Your table region is updated to your Rep and you can now create BOM balloon without effected your master assembly drawing.

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        vcrawford1-Visitor
        1-Visitor
        May 29, 2018

        I have figured out the same thing only recently. but have added a table on the sheet showing the simp rep, named that simp rep. and then hide the table. it is outside of the drawing frame. the other bonus to doing this is that your table only shows what is in the rep and its qty. so if you have 50 washers of on number the table and balloon only displays the qty in the rep. ie 12.

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