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N.Barnes14-Alexandrite
14-Alexandrite
November 25, 2025
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Can I use material_param("custom") function when the "custom" material attribute may not exist?

  • November 25, 2025
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Creo 10.0.8.0

In our material library I want to be able to add the common material designations as custom attributes in the material file.   THEN, I want to use a relation to automatically populate the material attribute MATL_SPEC with the material attribute when it exists.

 

But I have found then when the "custom" material property doesn't exist the relations fail.  I tried using the "exists()" function to check, but the equation fails before getting to the "exists()" function.

 

This is the equation I was trying to use.  When "custom" exists, it works, but if "custom" doesn't exist it fails.

if exists(material_param("custom"))
test=material_param("custom")
endif

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Also, I've found then when "custom" does exist, I don't actually enter into the "do" part of the IF statement.

 

Is there another recommended work-around or relation function structure I can try?

Best answer by Voronov

I created a simple application. It adds a custom function to relations: exists_mtrl_prm(). It takes an argument—the name of the parameter to be checked in the current material. It returns either its value, if it exists, or NULL, if the parameter doesn't exist. Any type is converted to a string.

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KenFarley21-Topaz II
21-Topaz II
November 25, 2025

You have to think about the calling sequence of functions you're using:

Your IF statement  is using EXISTS( ) which needs a string argument.

The string argument you are attempting to use is what is returned by material_param("custom3").

material_param needs a valid parameter name. Attempting to pass it custom3 when that argument does not exist in the material definition results in an error.

That error probably results in the function returning nothing, or a numeric result, or it just causes execution to fail. Either way, the EXISTS() function is not getting anything good.

Even when you use a valid name for material_param(), the EXISTS() function is going to be returning a result indicating whether the value returned by it exists in the model. i.e. if the value of custom in the material is "APPLE", your IF statement is based on the value of EXISTS ( "APPLE" ). If there's no dimension or parameter in the model with the name "APPLE", your IF statement will not be executed. It's not evaluating whether the parameter exists in the material definition.

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Voronov12-Amethyst
12-Amethyst
November 27, 2025

Try this:

IF material_param("custom3")!=""

....

ENDIF

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Voronov12-Amethyst
12-Amethyst
November 27, 2025

My mistake. I misunderstood the question.

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Voronov12-AmethystAnswer
12-Amethyst
November 27, 2025

I created a simple application. It adds a custom function to relations: exists_mtrl_prm(). It takes an argument—the name of the parameter to be checked in the current material. It returns either its value, if it exists, or NULL, if the parameter doesn't exist. Any type is converted to a string.

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    anursinghCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    December 28, 2025

    Hi @N.Barnes,

     

    I wanted to see if you got the help you needed.

    If so, please mark the appropriate reply as the Accepted Solution. It will help other members who may have the same question.
    Of course, if you have more to share on your issue, please pursue the conversation. 

     

    Thanks,
    Anurag

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