Create or Redefine Simplified Representation WITHOUT Activating It?

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June 25, 2019
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Is it possible to create or redefine a simplified representation in Creo Parametric WITHOUT causing it to activate? I often will make adjustments to an arbitrary simp rep while the model is open in an empty rep. However, the only options I see are "Open", "Cancel", and "Apply". Pressing Open is the only way I know to actually save the changes made, which forces the simp rep to become the active rep in the model. This can be extremely frustrating when working with a massive assembly.

I would love to see this screen have options like "Save", "Apply", and "Cancel" instead of the current set.

Assembly Design

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Roy_Crerar

1-Visitor

I don't think there is a particularly clever way to achieve what you are looking for. You can however be smarter about the simplified rep default settings. Remember that if include or exclude are by default as you add content it will either automatically add or exclude from each rep.

There are also zonal reps so you can include or exclude in zones between datum planes for example.

Additionally rules based reps might help you where you scan set rules to include or exclude on a parameter or the part number, the controls for that are endless really. In the past I have used a parameters that identify parts as fasteners so I can have a rep that has removed all fasteners with one line of code.

Also you could use combined view states. Set up each window to be the reps you want to control so you adjust in that window.

Again coming back to reps. If you are only needing pictures for drawings these huge reps could simply be graphic reps so you would not be able to measure distances in the model but would see the part.

Hope this helps.

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Pettersson

15-Moonstone

No new ideas or functionality on this topic, I guess? Having this problem now. I'm making a mapkey to create a bunch of simp reps for large assembly management. Since the assemblies are large, it's a hassle having to activate them as they are created. And since the simp reps are rule-based and not manual, I can't define them in the model tree. I want to create a new simp rep, set up the rules, and then save that simp rep and create another one. All without activating the simp rep, or ideally even evaluating the rules.

I thought I had found a bit of a workaround in that I can right-click on the "open" button in the simp rep window and choose "Open Automatic". This way, I at least don't have to activate the master rep, I thought. But then I realized that doing so saves the simp rep with the default rule "automatic" instead of "master", which is not what I want.

Not possible, I'm guessing? Anyone have any ideas?

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M_C_Anderson

Author

12-Amethyst

Sadly, I haven't seen any updates. Still the same old hindrance of requiring Master rep.

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jbob

12-Amethyst

You can modify simplified reps from within the model tree. Add the simp rep names to the model tree, modify tree columns and add the simp rep(s) you want to modify.

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M_C_Anderson

Author

12-Amethyst

This does indeed seem to work, thank you! It's a shame the only way to currently do this is something cumbersome like modifying my model tree columns, but it's better than waiting a half hour for something to load. Thanks!

EDIT: There's one major problem with this method. You cannot choose User reps in the dropdown menu that appears in that column. You can choose all the standard ones (Master, Exclude, Automatic, etc.), so in many cases this may help.

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M_C_Anderson

Author

12-Amethyst

I haven't seen any activity on this, and somehow this post got marked as Solved, which it very much is not. I wanted to restate the issue with a visual aid, in case it isn't clear what I am asking.

I can open this model in an empty simp rep, open the simp rep manager, and create or edit a simp rep--all without loading any 3D CAD. But if I want to get past this screen, my only choices are to Open (saves the simp rep definition and opens it to the graphics window), Cancel (undos any changes I made), or Apply (opens it to the graphics window but does not save the edited simp rep definition). This feels like what was most likely an oversight in the original UI design and was just never properly addressed, I should be able to just press something like "OK" and return to the previous screen without being forced to load all those models.