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September 3, 2015
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  • September 3, 2015
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We are negotiating getting back on maintenance with our VAR.  We had intended to wait until the end of the year, but with the discontinuation of the Winback program, it looks like we need to move now.

Our VAR has presented moving to one of the "PTC Creo Essentials" packages, specifically Essentials Team.  These are configured differently from the old packages, in fact, many of the old extensions aren't mentioned but are implied.  Fore example, there is no "advanced assembly", but the "top Down Design Tools" in Essentials Team sounds like it might be the same.  There is no ISDX, but there is something in the base Essentials package called "Parametric & Freestyle surfacing".  It seems odd that they'd include ISDX in the base package, however. 

So I decided to dig around for more info on these and I can't find anything on them at PTC.com. A search for "Creo Essentials" turns up nothing. If you browse to the CAD Packages page, they are called Engineer I, Engineer II, etc. and are similar to the old packages from 5 or so years ago.  AAX is mentioned, ISDX is mentioned as are all the familiar old add ons.  There are no add ons mentioned in the Creo Essentials documentation, just 4 different packages.

Can anyone shed any light on these two package sets and how they relate?  Of course, I intend to ask my VAR, but if anyone here has some info I'd love to hear it.  I've attached the PDFs for each here.


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Best answer by TomU

The Essentials packages are sold though VARs, so PTC doesn't list them on their website.  Creo Essentials Team does not include ISDX.

Here is an older picture, but it shows the packages pretty well.

essentials.PNG

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Marco Tosin
21-Topaz I
21-Topaz I
September 3, 2015
Marco
21-Topaz II
September 3, 2015

That's the Engineer packages PDF that I attached above. 

Marco Tosin
21-Topaz I
21-Topaz I
September 3, 2015

Sorry,

I haven't seen them.

Marco
TomU23-Emerald IVAnswer
23-Emerald IV
September 3, 2015

The Essentials packages are sold though VARs, so PTC doesn't list them on their website.  Creo Essentials Team does not include ISDX.

Here is an older picture, but it shows the packages pretty well.

essentials.PNG

21-Topaz II
September 3, 2015

Crazy that PTC offers two completely different set of packages using different terminology.  Even crazier that those who have to work through a VAR can't get any info from PTC's web site.


I was thinking they might be the same things with different names, but it's hard to tell because they use different terminology.For example, in Engineer I you get "Direct Modeling Capabilities" in Essentials you get "Flex Modeling" and "Freestyle".  Is that the same thing?


Engineer II and Essentials Plus are clearly not the same since Engineer II includes a choice of 3 extentions (AAX, Design Optimization or Motion Analysis) where in Essentials you can only get AAX with Team.

23-Emerald IV
September 3, 2015

Here's the other, newer picture.  Basically "concurrent engineering" is another way of saying "PDM", and "Top Down Design Tools" means "AAX".

ess2.PNG

21-Topaz II
September 3, 2015

That's the chart in the PDF I attached.

The first one you posted makes more sense, at least it related to what I was familiar with.  It doesn't show, however, anything for "concurrent engineering capabilities", which I assume is PDM Essentials since that's part of his quote.

23-Emerald IV
September 3, 2015

I'm probably not at liberty to share the actual comparison tool, but here is a screen shot showing the contents of three different packages.  Your VAR should have this.

pkg.PNG