Question
Disappearing parts-solution
Problem solved, at least for this part.
1. Download part from internet as a STEP file.
2. Rename the imported file to a proe legal filename (proe won't even
see it if it's an illegal proe filename)
3. Open a part that already has default datums in it (in this case the
part that came in with the emn file).
4. Delete the block that the emp file generated.
5. Insert>shared data>from file, browse to step file.
6. Accept default csys.
7. Part imports properly with datums where I want them.
I can section this, delete it and reimport it, and it behaves correctly.
My responses to suggestions that were offered is below.
Try enabling the "intf_in_use_template_models" to yes in your config.pro
file. I think this is the option so that imports use your standard start
part. This way the planes are already there as well as all your
parameters (provided they're there in your start part already). You
should also set the "template_solidpart" option to point to your
standard start part.
This may solve your issue.
I don't have much control over the config.pro file, so I normally don't
mess with this. I may in the future.
***
Ken,
I'd recommend STEP files for import into Pro/E. They seem to have the
least amount of issues. IGES files are frequently surface models which
may or may not be "water-tite". Surfaces that don't close completely
can't be solidified.
STEP files seem to work a lot better. I originally imported the parts
as "proe part/assembly" and that was a mistake.
***
Can you provide the link to the model you are downloading?
What version and datecode of Pro/E?
WF3, M160
Here are the links:
times too count. Removing "color" layers will normally eliminate the
problem. HTH.
No. They are not native proe. I haven't messed with color layers, but
there weren't any color layers in this part. Not that I could tell,
anyway.
***
The only suggestion i have is to try importing the file into a newly
created part with the default datum planes already defined using INSERT,
SHARED DATA, FROM FILE.
Don't know if it fixes the problem, but it's a slightly different
approach.
This is exactly what I did. It worked.
***
What are the file sizes of the part before inserting the datums compared
to the part with the datums and missing geometry? If the missing
geometry parts is much smaller, I might think the geometry is getting
lost somewhere. This doesn't really help you but I am curious.
I didn't get around to this, but I will definitely keep it in my back
pocket.
***
If you save the part, erase it from memory then retrieve the part does
it show up?
No. It is gone, even though the model tree shows the import feature.
***
Ken,
I have had the same problem with neutral files from the internet. I
couldn't find a fix other than to create the part first using your start
part (template) then append the neutral file to it so I have the datums,
layers, etc...
I haven't used neutral files before. Maybe I'll look at this in the
future.
Ken Sauter
DRS Reconnaissance Surveillance and Target Acquisition
Infrared Technologies Division
PO Box 740188
Dallas, TX 75374
214-860-6826
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1. Download part from internet as a STEP file.
2. Rename the imported file to a proe legal filename (proe won't even
see it if it's an illegal proe filename)
3. Open a part that already has default datums in it (in this case the
part that came in with the emn file).
4. Delete the block that the emp file generated.
5. Insert>shared data>from file, browse to step file.
6. Accept default csys.
7. Part imports properly with datums where I want them.
I can section this, delete it and reimport it, and it behaves correctly.
My responses to suggestions that were offered is below.
Try enabling the "intf_in_use_template_models" to yes in your config.pro
file. I think this is the option so that imports use your standard start
part. This way the planes are already there as well as all your
parameters (provided they're there in your start part already). You
should also set the "template_solidpart" option to point to your
standard start part.
This may solve your issue.
I don't have much control over the config.pro file, so I normally don't
mess with this. I may in the future.
***
Ken,
I'd recommend STEP files for import into Pro/E. They seem to have the
least amount of issues. IGES files are frequently surface models which
may or may not be "water-tite". Surfaces that don't close completely
can't be solidified.
STEP files seem to work a lot better. I originally imported the parts
as "proe part/assembly" and that was a mistake.
***
Can you provide the link to the model you are downloading?
What version and datecode of Pro/E?
WF3, M160
Here are the links:
times too count. Removing "color" layers will normally eliminate the
problem. HTH.
No. They are not native proe. I haven't messed with color layers, but
there weren't any color layers in this part. Not that I could tell,
anyway.
***
The only suggestion i have is to try importing the file into a newly
created part with the default datum planes already defined using INSERT,
SHARED DATA, FROM FILE.
Don't know if it fixes the problem, but it's a slightly different
approach.
This is exactly what I did. It worked.
***
What are the file sizes of the part before inserting the datums compared
to the part with the datums and missing geometry? If the missing
geometry parts is much smaller, I might think the geometry is getting
lost somewhere. This doesn't really help you but I am curious.
I didn't get around to this, but I will definitely keep it in my back
pocket.
***
If you save the part, erase it from memory then retrieve the part does
it show up?
No. It is gone, even though the model tree shows the import feature.
***
Ken,
I have had the same problem with neutral files from the internet. I
couldn't find a fix other than to create the part first using your start
part (template) then append the neutral file to it so I have the datums,
layers, etc...
I haven't used neutral files before. Maybe I'll look at this in the
future.
Ken Sauter
DRS Reconnaissance Surveillance and Target Acquisition
Infrared Technologies Division
PO Box 740188
Dallas, TX 75374
214-860-6826
-
NOTICE: This e-mail transmission (and/or the attachments accompanying
it) may contain confidential or proprietary information belonging to DRS
Technologies or the sender. The information is only for the use of the
intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby
notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any
action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly
prohibited. Any unauthorized interception of this transmission is
illegal under the law. If you have received this transmission in error,
please promptly notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then destroy all
copies of the transmission.
"This (document/presentation) may contain technical data as defined in
the International Traffic In Arms Regulations (ITAR) 22 CFR 120.10.
Export of this material is restricted by the Arms Export Control Act (22
U.S.C. 2751 et seq.) and may not be exported to foreign persons without
prior written approval from the U.S. Department of State."
This thread is inactive and closed by the PTC Community Management Team. If you would like to provide a reply and re-open this thread, please notify the moderator and reference the thread. You may also use "Start a topic" button to ask a new question. Please be sure to include what version of the PTC product you are using so another community member knowledgeable about your version may be able to assist.